[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Are you Jewish?

Do you read a decent newspaper and or watch a good news programme ?

What news media online do you use?

There is plenty of abundant evidence that Corbyn is anti-Israel, and people are free to be critical of that if they want to be, and I'm sure plenty of people think that's terrible enough.

It isn't anti-semitism though. Disliking Israel is not the same as disliking Jewish people, and it never will be.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

There is plenty of abundant evidence that Corbyn is anti-Israel, and people are free to be critical of that if they want to be, and I'm sure plenty of people think that's terrible enough.

It isn't anti-semitism though. Disliking Israel is not the same as disliking Jewish people, and it never will be.

Sorry TS but the whole thing has moved well on from that type of apologist stance politically.

Its not a debate about is he or isnt he

its about how he will now never be a PM as an anti-Semite and who can replace him?

[Greg!]

How is being against the actions of the Israeli government anti-semitic. The whole thing is nonsense and an excuse from 'moderate' Labour MPs to oust him. To call Corbybn an anti-semite is disgraceful as he's spent his whole life campaigning against racism of all forms

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sorry TS but the whole thing has moved well on from that type of apologist stance politically.

Its not a debate about is he or isnt he

its about how he will now never be a PM as an anti-Semite and who can replace him?

You can't shut down discussion because "the whole thing has moved on" though.

& the line needs to be drawn;

Anti-semitism - Hatred/prejudice towards jewish people, culture, faith, traditions etc.

Anti-zionism - Opposition to an Israeli state and/or Israeli public policy

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Sorry TS but the whole thing has moved well on from that type of apologist stance politically.

Its not a debate about is he or isnt he

its about how he will now never be a PM as an anti-Semite and who can replace him?

no otherwise UK would make the same mistake as Germany did when they started WW2 with their anti-semite Hitler


who should replace Corbyn, obviously a much more likeable and non-racist politician, no doubt about that, but who i don't know

[MTVN]

Being anti-Israel is not anti-Semitic in itself but the former is often used to justify the latter. People who rant about stuff like the 'pro-Israeli lobby' and it's influence or moan about 'the Rothschilds' are really just repeating the years old slurs about Jews controlling the media and the banks etc. and being too powerful

Surely if Corbyn himself says that there is a problem and that people who deny it are part of the problem then his supporters should start to reassess the language they use and the sort of people and arguments that they engage with?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Greg!

How is being against the actions of the Israeli government anti-semitic. The whole thing is nonsense and an excuse from 'moderate' Labour MPs to oust him. To call Corbybn an anti-semite is disgraceful as he's spent his whole life campaigning against racism of all forms

You are saying that all the Jewish people and groups who are desperately worried about this are talking nonsense?

wow

Tell me, how many Jews have you discussed this with?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

You can't shut down discussion because "the whole thing has moved on" though.

& the line needs to be drawn;

Anti-semitism - Hatred/prejudice towards jewish people, culture, faith, traditions etc.

Anti-zionism - Opposition to an Israeli state and/or Israeli public policy

Have you even been following the threads on Tibb?

Did you hear what his deputy said this week?

What he said as an apology?

What Margaret Hodge said?


I mean I am astonished that you have not seen this, its been all over

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You are saying that all the Jewish people and groups who are desperately worried about this are talking nonsense?

wow

Tell me, how many Jews have you discussed this with?

Having concerns about anti-semitism in the Labour Party as a whole is legitimate, but to call Corbyn himself an anti-Semite is ridiculous. I've seen plenty of Jewish labour members on TV agree.

[parmnion]

Delete my post if you want, it doesnt change the FACT he's a racist old bastard.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Delete my post if you want, it doesnt change the FACT he's a racist old bastard.

You haven't had any posts in here deleted

Might be mixing it up with the other thread?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Delete my post if you want, it doesnt change the FACT he's a racist old bastard.

it's just straightforward honest facts Parmy


Corbyn should be just banned from politics, we need someone to make the UK heartwarming, likeable, but yet someone who can say it to the foreigners in UK with a bit more decency and less racist tone

you don't need to anger them any further, you need to reason with them, and a anti-semite like Corbyn will never be a decent politician, so he deserves to be axed from politics for good


i'd wish Ed Balls would come back to the politics, his views also about trump, i see on his BBC2 show every sunday are actually quite good, also about the gun control laws he has good valid points about that as well

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Delete my post if you want, it doesnt change the FACT he's a racist old bastard.

Originally Posted by MTVN

You haven't had any posts in here deleted

Might be mixing it up with the other thread?

From the "when is LT back?" one?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Delete my post if you want, it doesnt change the FACT he's a racist old bastard.

there is this thread too http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...1#post10128241