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28-09-2018, 01:51 PM | #51 | |||
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They are now voting on him
if he can get the job. Live all media |
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28-09-2018, 02:35 PM | #52 | ||
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It's so obvious he's lying through his teeth. He did all the tricks, trying to shout down accusations, white girl tears, emotional manipulation by trying to bring his daughter into it.
The whole tactic of getting a bunch of women to vouch for him is transparent and pointless. Few people who commit sexual assault seem like they are likely to do it, when you get a rapist or someone found guilty of sexual assaults you always get people who never thought they were capable of doing it. None of these women can vouch for his actions on the nights of the accusations. Republicans should let him go, it'll only hurt them if they try to push him through. There's plenty of other candidates that will help them undo Roe Vs Wade...sadly. |
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28-09-2018, 02:55 PM | #53 | |||
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The Democrats Demand a FBI Investigation?
But that's a waste of time No Physical evidence |
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28-09-2018, 04:02 PM | #54 | |||
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You know my methods
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this whole thing has been a shocking waste of money and time full stop
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28-09-2018, 05:12 PM | #55 | |||
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Around 90mins to go
to find out if he gets the job. |
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28-09-2018, 05:13 PM | #56 | ||
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Does seem very strange how this has come out now.Why not 1982 or ‘83 or ‘84.....or anytime in the last 36 years?
A cynic could’nt be blamed for thinking it looks like some kind of stitch up. |
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28-09-2018, 05:46 PM | #57 | |||
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28-09-2018, 05:47 PM | #58 | |||
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28-09-2018, 06:03 PM | #59 | |||
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Now a 2 hour brake
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28-09-2018, 06:04 PM | #60 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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I'd not heard of either party before all this. I'm gonna be cautiously sceptical - the timing is suspect, and tbh I'd be angry and overly emotional if such false claims were aimed at me. Which side does the available evidence point toward, hers or his?
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28-09-2018, 06:16 PM | #61 | |||
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I feel both Ford & Kavanaugh (key word: feel) were both victimized in some way yesterday... whoever was telling the truth, I don't think it was fair to them to play political football with both their lives & and their families... it made for very toxic viewing yesterday and I feel a bit deceived/patronized having watched it...
Maybe they need to have a process for serious sexual allegations like this where they are automatically put into investigation under penalty of law (if intentionally false).. so 1) that victims know they will be heard... 2) The accused get a fair hearing in a timely manner... and particularly 3) People aren't sending random letters to partisan senators who then will use it as fodder to fuel their political theater and stoke the press... I don't feel that he will be confirmed, but the Republicans may do so simply because they have a lot to lose not to confirm him. It will be seen as their failure, either because they selected the wrong nominee or because they didn't have a stiff enough backbone... I guess pick one of those... Anyway, some readings for today... Kavanaugh’s Yearbook Page Is ‘Horrible, Hurtful’ to a Woman It Named https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/24/b...ok-renate.html Full excerpt: Spoiler: 'Renate Alumnius' entry was NOT about sex - though he admits 'Ralph Club' was about vomiting from beer https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art..._campaign=1490 The Casual Cruelty of Laughter; Christine Blasey Ford's Testimony https://theslot.jezebel.com/the-targ...1829387225/amp Spoiler: Quote:
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28-09-2018, 06:29 PM | #62 | |||
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I'm not listening atm... yesterday was exhausting enough ._. ... maybe I will tune in soon though after I make my coffee...
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It's hard to say which way the "evidence" leans, because it depends on what we call evidence and whether we consider the testimony of certain witnesses is credible... there's a lot of chats with media, but those are not under oath. The ones in favor of Kavanaugh have been done under oath with the FBI (?) if iirc... there's a lot of hearsay, speculation and emotional arguments going both directions, but that's not surprising given the media circus this has become... The burden of proof is on her to have proven her case, but she's doing one side a political favor and so partisan media and that side are going to give here a lot of passes, even if she's not consistent in portions of her testimony... it isn't fair on his end because these are last minute claims and will literally ruin his life even if they're not true... I haven't read every single fact on the case though, so that's my impression of what I've read so far... I think it would take a trial/investigation to sort tbqh... Speaking of investigations... Quote:
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28-09-2018, 06:34 PM | #63 | |||
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CNN: Democrats have hijacked metoo for political gain
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/09/26/o...eld/index.html |
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28-09-2018, 06:41 PM | #64 | |||
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self-oscillating
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That's where the bulk of the frustration seems to lie |
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28-09-2018, 09:48 PM | #65 | ||
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28-09-2018, 10:22 PM | #66 | |||
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28-09-2018, 10:24 PM | #67 | |||
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From this morning, Mark Judge letter (#2 I think):
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29-09-2018, 12:26 AM | #68 | |||
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I'm glad Donald listened to my concerns and has ordered an FBI investigation, even if it is very limited. Lets see what the week brings because it's already been shown that Kavanaugh lied under oath.
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29-09-2018, 02:29 AM | #69 | |||
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You'd think listening to the hysteria on both sides, we won't have a country in a week... Guys, if I stop posting... it's the civil cyber war...
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29-09-2018, 04:51 AM | #70 | |||
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Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.dbc2468d83e3
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29-09-2018, 10:04 AM | #71 | |||
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So 7 days for the FBI
to go back all those years? as if they will find anything new? Then he may get his Job. |
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29-09-2018, 12:23 PM | #72 | |||
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You know my methods
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what a circus
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29-09-2018, 12:59 PM | #73 | ||
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29-09-2018, 07:11 PM | #74 | ||
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It’s a political weapon.The timing is no coincidence.
Imo. |
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29-09-2018, 10:09 PM | #75 | |||
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(also why can't people use landscape mode ) Video: Me: ' I think if I have a kid that decides to get involved in politics, I might react like some parents do at the prospect of their children going into the military... Last edited by Maru; 29-09-2018 at 10:10 PM. |
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