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05-10-2018, 01:50 PM | #76 | ||
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Transactivists receive no abuse? Ok, I'll take your word for it.
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05-10-2018, 01:50 PM | #77 | |||
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A lot of feminists own this term and call themselves it too lol Last edited by Elliot; 05-10-2018 at 01:51 PM. |
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05-10-2018, 01:51 PM | #78 | ||
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Luckily there are many, and more by the day as men wake up to how much of a mens rights movement transactivism is now. And to be clear, I don't mean the likes of India, who has got along quite fine and not many people would have an issue sharing womens loos and such with her as she is post op. Thats not what transactivists are fighting for, infact they call people like India 'truscum'. They are fighting for ANY MAN to have access to womens rights, basically. Which makes womens rights utterly meaningless.
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05-10-2018, 01:53 PM | #79 | ||
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https://terfisaslur.com/ Not been updated for a while...but gives an idea of what it means these days. Just aniother misogynistic slu7r. Also check out the cotton ceiling section. Shows how homophobic transactivists are too...even Stonewall back that.
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05-10-2018, 01:55 PM | #81 | ||
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You don't need to take my word for it, go check out their timelines. They may get the odd abusive message but its nothing at all like what feminists get. Each of my twitter posts gets at least 20 threats and 'bitch' 'slut' etc type replies. Even ones that are **** all to do with trans matters, because I am on the radar of these men who want women to shut up about stuff that affects them.
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05-10-2018, 01:55 PM | #82 | |||
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i get the problem with this, but it's also not that India is a likeable person, not at all, the way she came over on CBB
so if that feminist just told India she isn't a good role model for the women in general, there wasn't any problem whatsoever it's just the way this person said it now, came over as homophobic, insult towards the LGBTQ community and that is just plain rude
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05-10-2018, 01:57 PM | #83 | ||
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05-10-2018, 02:01 PM | #84 | |||
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there definitely isn't much respect for women's rights, which should improve honestly, that subject has been going on for a long time now equality for me is what should be more in the world, everyone is the same, we are all human, sorry if i sound poetic now with this
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05-10-2018, 02:04 PM | #85 | ||
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In the case of the topic at hand, that would be a third unisex option for transpeople. ONTOP of single sex areas. So they have the right to use either the areas of their sex, or the unisex one if they do not feel comfortable using the areas that their sex is meant to use. As sex segregated areas are segregated by sex, not 'gender' anyway, and this needs to be acknowledged by all really. There is absolutely no point in segregating areas where one is naked or vulnerable by 'gender' which amounts to nothing more than a feeling in ones head, that a lot of people don't even have! (though women have had an honour system with transsexuals going for years and years anyway, where women will politely pretend they do not know the person is male, as they acknowledge that they have a difficult life. This is massively under threat with the behaviour/demands of transactivists tbh).
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05-10-2018, 02:05 PM | #86 | |||
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Interesting that it's mostly the males on this thread are telling us how bad transsexuals have it. And yes, some of them do, and I'm truly sorry for that. Everyone has a right to be happy.
That doesn't make the outrageous campaign against any woman who speaks out acceptable. |
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05-10-2018, 02:12 PM | #87 | ||
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You seem a little too preoccupied with dismissing opinions as "Oooh, well that's a male forum member so their view doesn't matter". Knock yourself out. Last edited by Marsh.; 05-10-2018 at 02:12 PM. |
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05-10-2018, 02:13 PM | #88 | ||
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Moving the goalposts of the discussion from India Willoughby and this blogger and the debate they've had to the larger and more extreme examples of both of them doesn't help a reasoned discussion neither. It's all a little muddled.
Such as the points actually raised in this debate versus "can anyone identify as anything" are a different and much larger discussion IMO. Last edited by Marsh.; 05-10-2018 at 02:14 PM. |
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05-10-2018, 02:16 PM | #89 | ||
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I think it helps to have a bit more background of quite what we are dealing with here And the reasons Posie has ended up with the action of the billboard (which was what she was invited to discuss..the billboard, why it happened and the behaviour of transactivists, not India Willougby).. As women are just not being listened to. This has forced the issue really, and oddly enough, most people appear to agree with Posie, though seem to think she has a very harsh way of putting her opinions across. But yes, noone actually thinks transwomen are women. Hence 'transwoman'. And thats ****ing fine! Except apparently its not.
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05-10-2018, 02:17 PM | #90 | |||
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And yes, men are entitled to have their say. But so are woman. Sadly if women have their say they run the risk of being abused online, at best, and in receipt of vile threats at worse. |
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05-10-2018, 02:19 PM | #91 | ||
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G4IhPncF3w
Check out the difference between sky news, and the this morning **** show. Sky news actually stuck to the topic she was meant to be talking about. This morning was meant to be about the same thing, not one specific post op transsexual. I especially like her ending comment, about the whole reason she did it was because she knew entitled males would kick off about it. That basically their (predicted) reaction would get publicity for whats going on. And it has. 700 quid well spent (and refunded, after the misogynist doctor who takes part in doxxing also, complained. And she got a refund and now has another billboard)
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05-10-2018, 02:29 PM | #92 | ||
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Saying women receive online abuse is fine, it's factual. Framing it with comments about this thread/forum itself is needless IMO. |
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05-10-2018, 02:30 PM | #93 | ||
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So they can't be "women" but now can't be "trans women" either so just "males"? Or are they referring to men of all forms? |
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05-10-2018, 02:36 PM | #94 | ||
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Entitled males being transactivists, not transwomen. Most transactivists are not even transsexual (and will abuse those who are actually transexual), at least the ones who kick off about stuff like the dictionary definition of woman..aren't. Transactivists on the whole, are just MRAs, or misogynists latching onto a cause. Obviously not all transactivists are like that, some genuinely do care about transsexual people. But the ones who are sending out daily threats to women, they aren't actually transsexual, usually.
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05-10-2018, 02:39 PM | #95 | ||
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https://metro.co.uk/2018/10/01/trans...-girl-7994533/ As an example of what passes for transwoman these days. And exactly what feminists are fighting against. This man, will likely be sent to a female prison. There have been a few cases recently of rapists being sent to female prisons as they claim to be 'trans'.
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05-10-2018, 02:59 PM | #96 | ||
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The current system is fine. Transwomen can be moved to female prisons if they have a GRC. Which can be gained by having doctors agree you have gender dysphoria. And with a small fee, that is waived if you have a low income. The GRC system was made with it in mind that transsexuals were a very small number of people, it was estimated to help 5000 people. Today, just under 5000 people have a GRC, so its working exactly as intended. But transactivists say that such a small number of people having one is proof its not working, as there are 500,000 'trans' people in the UK. This is with the ever widening definition of trans of course. Not with what people think of when they hear trans...which is transsexual. No reason at all to change this system, which helps transsexuals, while also keeping out fetishists and such. It puzzled me for a long time why transactivists were fighting for 'self ID'. Until it clicked, that transactivism in its current form is nothing more than a mens sexual rights movement. Now their behaviour and demands make so much sense.
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05-10-2018, 03:24 PM | #97 | |||
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India is a woman. Having had the full transaction. ( not sure if that’s the correct description).
I am a woman. I don’t feel my femininity is threatened by transsexuals. For medical purposes I am a biological woman. I really don’t get the constant hype and aggro about it all. Live and let live. |
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05-10-2018, 03:27 PM | #98 | ||
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Until then you should not be allowed in female prisons or toilets. Perhaps the disabled toilets could be renamed and shared between disabled and trans. I know wouldn’t have a problem with that at all. |
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