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Old 12-10-2018, 04:25 AM #1
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Default Last night Akeem and Lewis argument has been fuelled by drink

I think drink played a major part in the argument. I doubt they would have kicked off like that if they were sober. They really need to stop giving them too much alcohol, it only makes things worse.
I expect Akeem and Lewis to talk things through, because so far they have been fine with each other.
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In other words if Lewis never drank he would have gone to the Dr and moan and bitch about akeem then be nice to his face. Akeem was spot on last night... They really need to play back some of Lewis F drs to the house and have him explain how upforunt and non two faced he is
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In other words if Lewis never drank he would have gone to the Dr and moan and bitch about akeem then be nice to his face. Akeem was spot on last night... They really need to play back some of Lewis F drs to the house and have him explain how upforunt and non two faced he is
The DR is there for them to let off steam, they all do it .
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if you go to a bar and buy a drink and then become aggressive, it's not the fault of the bar, its the fault of the person who bought it and drank it knowing they would become aggressive. People are always responsible for their own actions
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Pair of them should have sat down and had some toast like the brains of the outfit Sian.
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In other words if Lewis never drank he would have gone to the Dr and moan and bitch about akeem then be nice to his face. Akeem was spot on last night... They really need to play back some of Lewis F drs to the house and have him explain how upforunt and non two faced he is
The diary room is there for housemates to express their thoughts and feelings.

Every housemate (just like lots of people in the outside world) talks about people behind their back, if you went up to everyone you have ever spoke about and told them what you had said you would be seen as being incredibly rude.
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Actually, what surprised me most was that Akeem even wanted to be in that tub with both Lewis and Cameron.
Akeem nominates them both every week.
They aren't the ones he'd really like being around.

I think there was perhaps, some playing up to Isabella being there too.
A bit of bravado in front of her as to winding each other up.

However Akeem has an undercurrent of nasty jibes too.
Which surfaced far more than before last night.

He knows, the way Lewis G going on about only room for one Lewis to be in the house, affected Lewis F heavily
Plus the week they were up and one going for certain.

He knows full well, that's an as yet unhealed sore with Lewis, also he knows Lewis draws comparisons with that with Hussain's entry.

So highly insensitive and I think with a determined nastiness, Akeem coming out with the 2 Lewis's up for eviction but the wrong one went, was way out if order.

Everyone knows Lewis is volatile, there are those watching who love seeing that about him.
However always usually cool and calm appearing fair Akeem, removed his mask last night.

Showing clearly his truly vindictive and nasty side too.
His calm cover he's acted out on, blown out the water now.
Whether he stays or goes, who knows.

I hope he goes but think he'll stay,
The viewers will likely kick the female out again.
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Actually, what surprised me most was that Akeem even wanted to be in that tub with both Lewis and Cameron.
Akeem nominates them both every week.
They aren't the ones he'd really like being around.

I think there was perhaps, some playing up to Isabella being there too.
A bit of bravado in front of her as to winding each other up.

However Akeem has an undercurrent of nasty jibes too.
Which surfaced far more than before last night.

He knows, the way Lewis G going on about only room for one Lewis to be in the house, affected Lewis F heavily
Plus the week they were up and one going for certain.

He knows full well, that's an as yet unhealed sore with Lewis, also he knows Lewis draws comparisons with that with Hussain's entry.

So highly insensitive and I think with a determined nastiness, Akeem coming out with the 2 Lewis's up for eviction but the wrong one went, was way out if order.

Everyone knows Lewis is volatile, there are those watching who love seeing that about him.
However always usually cool and calm appearing fair Akeem, removed his mask last night.

Showing clearly his truly vindictive and nasty side too.
His calm cover he's acted out on, blown out the water now.
Whether he stays or goes, who knows.

I hope he goes but think he'll stay,
The viewers will likely kick the female out again.
They had just done a task together, just because he nominated them doesn't mean he can't socialise with them, nominations are often a result of what has happened the previous week, so maybe he had a good week with them? He said to Cameron that they had a good day and not to start when he asked him to stop whistling, Brooke nominated Lewis and people have no issues with her cuddling him
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The DR is there for them to let off steam, they all do it .
It's actually what the diary room is for in part Kazanne.
As you say.

I think they could play all Lewis has said and Cameron too, back to the house and none would be surprised in the slightest or bothered.

Cameron was the first to call out Tomasz on his selfish game playing, he's not afraid to say to their faces anything he wishes.

Lewis cannot control his feelings, even around them, I'm sure everyone knows his views on them.
Hence them nominating him every week.

What would playing his diary room chats to them change..
They nominate him every week anyway.

How about playing all their diary room chats and rants back.
Especially Akeem and his smug arrogance chats.
Now that could alter things considerably.
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Actually, what surprised me most was that Akeem even wanted to be in that tub with both Lewis and Cameron.
Akeem nominates them both every week.
They aren't the ones he'd really like being around.

I think there was perhaps, some playing up to Isabella being there too.
A bit of bravado in front of her as to winding each other up.

However Akeem has an undercurrent of nasty jibes too.
Which surfaced far more than before last night.

He knows, the way Lewis G going on about only room for one Lewis to be in the house, affected Lewis F heavily
Plus the week they were up and one going for certain.

He knows full well, that's an as yet unhealed sore with Lewis, also he knows Lewis draws comparisons with that with Hussain's entry.

So highly insensitive and I think with a determined nastiness, Akeem coming out with the 2 Lewis's up for eviction but the wrong one went, was way out if order.

Everyone knows Lewis is volatile, there are those watching who love seeing that about him.
However always usually cool and calm appearing fair Akeem, removed his mask last night.

Showing clearly his truly vindictive and nasty side too.
His calm cover he's acted out on, blown out the water now.
Whether he stays or goes, who knows.

I hope he goes but think he'll stay,
The viewers will likely kick the female out again.
What is akeem supposed to do? Sit there and take it?
God, he could invent a cure for cancer and sitll couldn’t win
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People like akeem would never have to get confrontational if they weren’t around people like Lewis f who relish in causing drama. In day to day life you’d prob never see akeem yell point blanc, whereas it’s probably a daily occurance for the egomaniac. Lewis has done it how many times now? And it took weeks of prodding by the bullies for akeem to finally stand up for himself. But I guess he’s at fault for doing so because he doesn’t do so all the time? Whereas you know Lewis would probably murder you? Idek anymore reading some of these posts is making me delirious

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They had just done a task together, just because he nominated them doesn't mean he can't socialise with them, nominations are often a result of what has happened the previous week, so maybe he had a good week with them? He said to Cameron that they had a good day and not to start when he asked him to stop whistling, Brooke nominated Lewis and people have no issues with her cuddling him


Actually I think they do with Brooke.
I do, I don't get her all over Lewis and then nominating him at all
There are a fair few comments on here re Brooke and her confusing attention to Lewis.

I think Cameron and Akeem had got on better during the task.
Cameron stated he was surprised how well they'd worked together.

This thread blames alcohol in part for the uproar, I think that's a valid point.
However what Lewis said to Akeem last night, he would have anyway, maybe not as aggressively without alcohol.
Akeem however would, in my view only maybe, not have made the other Lewis comment and also got more angry, without the alcohol.

Lewis was just an even louder Lewis last night, Akeem was the changed personality from calm to also provoking rather than calming.
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I went right off Lewis and Cameron last night they were both miserable and gunning for a fight to try and get Akeem out of the house by making him look bad - sadly they made themselves look particularly stupid with their miserable arguments and then just had to pick on Cian who was only trying to diffuse the whole thing.
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What is akeem supposed to do? Sit there and take it?
God, he could invent a cure for cancer and sitll couldn’t win
Lewis shouldn't have told both Akeem and Isabella to shut up.
However the second I heard Akeem unnecessarily say, the wrong Lewis went.

I knew a stink would be caused as that has been from the start of the series, a sore issue with Lewis and in part a reason for his paranoia.
No need to have raised Lewis G at all.

I still despite the task going okay, was surprised Akeem joined Lewis and Cameron in the tub.
Unless his intent was in part, to only get Lewis wound up in front of Isabelle.
After seeing Lewis and Isabelle getting on well.

I think a lot of people watching will wonder as to that too.

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Yes it was because of drink with Lewis. With Akeem..I think he might have still said something as he had been picked at all day with snide comments, but yes, it could have been the drink with him too.

I don't think BB need to stop giving them alcohol just because one person clearly cannot handle it. I think tbh, Lewis should not drink the alcohol when its there..if I was such a bad drunk I wouldn't touch the stuff..
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Yes it was because of drink with Lewis. With Akeem..I think he might have still said something as he had been picked at all day with snide comments, but yes, it could have been the drink with him too.

I don't think BB need to stop giving them alcohol just because one person clearly cannot handle it. I think tbh, Lewis should not drink the alcohol when its there..if I was such a bad drunk I wouldn't touch the stuff..
You do know Akeem was also throwing a few snide comments about right?
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You do know Akeem was also throwing a few snide comments about right?
He was replying to what was said to him, mainly. The 'you are the worst motivater ever' comment was clearly joking, not sniping. I am not an Akeem fan either, so not entirely sure why people keep replying to me with 'but Akeem'!
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Yes it was because of drink with Lewis. With Akeem..I think he might have still said something as he had been picked at all day with snide comments, but yes, it could have been the drink with him too.

I don't think BB need to stop giving them alcohol just because one person clearly cannot handle it. I think tbh, Lewis should not drink the alcohol when its there..if I was such a bad drunk I wouldn't touch the stuff..
I agree Lewis needs to stop drinking too much in there. But why did they give them achool during the task? Its almost like show bosses wanted it to kick off. Maybe because they it's too boring in there?
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I agree Lewis needs to stop drinking too much in there. But why did they give them achool during the task? Its almost like show bosses wanted it to kick off. Maybe because they it's too boring in there?
Yeah, I think they are sick of diary room rants and are 'forcing' some stuff to be said to peoples faces Does seem awfully lacking in drama recently so I get where they are coming from. I find them giving wine during the day/task odd.
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Yeah, I think they are sick of diary room rants and are 'forcing' some stuff to be said to peoples faces Does seem awfully lacking in drama recently so I get where they are coming from. I find them giving wine during the day/task odd.
I think that's very irresponsible. They should let The arguments happen naturally, not force them.
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