[Babayaro.]

Originally Posted by Elliot

she wasn't divisive she was unanimously loved on social media at the time and still is

There were plenty people who didn't like her

[Moniqua]

Black women on BB have to work twice as hard to get half as many votes compared to whites. Facts are facts America.

[Tom4784]

At this point you can't deny it's about race. The best a black girl can hope for is 3rd or 4th regardless of their personality and it just goes to show that the old saying is right. A black person (in this case, woman) has to do twice as much to get the same as everyone else and even then they'd still get passed over by a dull white guy. A lot of people said Kenaley is boring but there's plenty of white people in that house that had as much screen time as she did yet they aren't being put up by the public every week.

Racism makes white people uncomfortable, I get it but to deny it doesn't accomplish anything. There is an evident racial bias when it comes to voting and it's often true for most shows with a public vote.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Babayaro.

This.


I think this whole thing comes down to how the producers usually cast black women. If you look at most series, you will see that there's a black woman casted based off stereotypes - so the loud, gobby, argumentative type. Some examples would be Adele (argumentative), Makosi (all three lol), Charley, Alexandra, Sylvia, Sophia, Gina and Toya.

To claim that the public are voting housemates out purely based on the fact they are black, is a silly thing to say and believe.

I think the issue is more that plenty of white men have been praised for those exact qualities (loud, gobby, and argumentative)

[BBDodge]

Too boring, obviously.

Though how Sian escapes, God only knows.

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's because they are usually not very nice

because BB only casts like 1 per series

[montblanc]

even if a black girl is liked she always fail to garner up enough support as shown with Tiff, Gina, Sandi, and Debs

not saying that internalized racism is the only factor that plays into it but it's DEFINITELY a good bit of it

[montblanc]

if a black woman has a voice, she's aggressive and if she's not, then she's too dull

they'll never win in the eyes of not only the public but in society in general

[GoldHeart]

I still find it ridiculous how Kenny was low in the poll AGAIN , Sian is getting by on her looks . Why did people not take to Kenny at the time but they preferred Sian? who was more like an extra in a tv show in the backround . It's only now we're seeing more of Sian .

And even Brooke beat Kenny . And again Brooke was a background character, and is only getting air time now due to her weird love /hate relationship with Lewis and because she's a bit of a game player now .

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The public have never liked Black women

Off you go yet again, everytime you bring race into things and its unfounded.

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by montblanc

even if a black girl is liked she always fail to garner up enough support as shown with Tiff, Gina, Sandi, and Debs

not saying that internalized racism is the only factor that plays into it but it's DEFINITELY a good bit of it

sandi was awful tho cmon she kept saying she was supposed to win
the other 3 r robbed icons tho

[Elliot]

ginas another good example she had a perfect winners arc and lost anyway to two dewds who realistically shouldn't have won vs her, especially sam

[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Elliot

sandi was awful tho cmon she kept saying she was supposed to win
the other 3 r robbed icons tho

i'm not a sandi fan at all

i just used her as a point because she was majorly liked by the public and STILL got the least amount of votes out of virtually the whole house

[Elliot]

Originally Posted by montblanc

i'm not a sandi fan at all

i just used her as a point because she was majorly liked by the public and STILL got the least amount of votes out of virtually the whole house

sandi had joint highest odds to win at the start of the series iirc for the first week. they were even kinda high when she got evicted, tho idk why. she was a major disappointment for me and i think a lot of the social media and bookie support was due to people anticipating her to be as good as she was on goggle box, which she really really wasn't lol i personally wouldn't put that 1 down to race imho

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Matthew.

ffs it’s one of those days...

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I still find it ridiculous how Kenny was low in the poll AGAIN , Sian is getting by on her looks . Why did people not take to Kenny at the time but they preferred Sian? who was more like an extra in a tv show in the backround . It's only now we're seeing more of Sian .

And even Brooke beat Kenny . And again Brooke was a background character, and is only getting air time now due to her weird love /hate relationship with Lewis and because she's a bit of a game player now .

I agree with what you say about Sian...I don't know how she's getting votes.
Brooke has had interactions and sensible conversations with several housemates..I don't entirely trust her but at least she's not just ranting.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I agree with what you say about Sian...I don't know how she's getting votes.
Brooke has had interactions and sensible conversations with several housemates..I don't entirely trust her but at least she's not just ranting.

yeah, but people arent going vote for someone because they are racist, and want another housemate to lose, it just doesn't work like that.

Sian did much better in those viewers polls than Kay ... and so did Kenaley, so, i just dont get this racist stuff at all.

[Northern Monkey]

The sexism excuse makes a change from threads about race every year i suppose.

[Northern Monkey]

Oh,I’ve just scanned back through the replies....