[Maru]

It has to be terrible for his coworkers to have to keep writing. Trump joking about slamming journalists at rallies leaves a really bad taste. We should be incandescent. An attack on journalists abroad is an attack on the US considering the vital function they play in international-relations here. At least it would've easily had been in a different era... I can't remember a time when it was even remotely this bad in terms of White House/press relations. Though they were not always the warmest.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Maru

It has to be terrible for his coworkers to have to keep writing. Trump joking about slamming journalists at rallies leaves a really bad taste. We should be incandescent. An attack on journalists abroad is an attack on the US considering the vital function they play in international-relations here. At least it would've easily had been in a different era... I can't remember a time when it was even remotely this bad in terms of White House/press relations. Though they were not always the warmest.

Press freedom is being eradicated in america without censor or shutting them down by a constant narrative of calling them fake news, and the white house issuing "alternative facts" that have no basis in reality. Its an extremely worrying state of affairs

The other interesting one is that trumps narrative on the russia inquiry has changed from witch hunt to not caring, and thats because any Mueller report now will just be ignored without consequence. The narrative now is China interfering, when there is no evidence of any such thing, and this will be used to invalidate the results of the mid term elections should the results not go trumps way

If I were an american I would be very concerned. I also see similar things starting to raise their heads in the UK, so these are very troubling times

[Maru]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Press freedom is being eradicated in america without censor or shutting them down by a constant narrative of calling them fake news, and the white house issuing "alternative facts" that have no basis in reality. Its an extremely worrying state of affairs

The other interesting one is that trumps narrative on the russia inquiry has changed from witch hunt to not caring, and thats because any Mueller report now will just be ignored without consequence. The narrative now is China interfering, when there is no evidence of any such thing, and this will be used to invalidate the results of the mid term elections should the results not go trumps way

If I were an american I would be very concerned. I also see similar things starting to raise their heads in the UK, so these are very troubling times

To be fair, our press has helped massively to morph politics into this Frankenstein, so I can't really say it's surprising for most people here that now we have elected officials (and a public) that is willing to push back.

People on the right that I listen to don't say those organizations are fake news. Though they will often say they commonly peddle certain themes in order to uphold a particular narrative. I think the fact they have swayed so far from their own values, journalistic value becoming hard-to-find, it's allowed for people like Trump to come out of that earth unscathed... is my opinion after being practically glued to the news during Obama's run (I remember Tucker when he was on MSNBC with that silly bowtie), and now reading/watching the other side... there's definitely two sides to that coin and it's not being covered in the mainstream at all.

There is a lot that is either not covered or is completely ignored in the mainstream. The thing about ny cultural narrative, it's very difficult to throw the entirity of the US electorate under one broad brushstroke... the US being as diverse as it is and how extensive our culture is and what it is meant to cover, particularly demographically speaking.

I'm not as worried about press, simply for the fact, the way "the press" is determined has rapidly changed due to technology. People in the US are hungry for information. They want the facts. They don't necessarily know who that authoritative source is (edit) and at the moment there seems to be disagreement on if there should/shouldn't be an authority... but that's maybe the wave of the future. There being no "mainstream" so to speak, but rather different partisan niches/takes on the situation and folk just having to do the search and decide on their own. The problem though is the high amount of "edutainment"/"infotainment"... and then the personalization bubble(s) of search/engine social can exascerbate the above issue(s)/mantras I mentioned...

[bitontheslide]

Another thing of concern was Manafort's sentencing hearing yesterday, where the hearing has been postponed due to his considerable ill health (he turned up in a wheelchair) Has someone got to him and poisoned him?

[MTVN]

Maybe the Saudis are telling the truth, 18 arrests and two sackings of high ranking officials is a pretty strong statement

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Maybe the Saudis are telling the truth, 18 arrests and two sackings of high ranking officials is a pretty strong statement

Yes that's true,
but they are giving a statement
if your attack Saudi Arabia in worldwide Press
they will kill you.

Their War in Yemen
is far worse.



Labour Party
rush in today saying stop
selling anymore arms to Saudi Arabia
these are Jobs in the UK and USA
making weapons and fighter jets for the that nation,
Jobs matter.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes that's true,
but they are giving a statement
if your attack Saudi Arabia in worldwide Press
they will kill you.

Their War in Yemen
is far worse.



Labour Party
rush in today saying stop
selling anymore arms to Saudi Arabia
these are Jobs in the UK and USA
making weapons and fighter jets for the that nation,
Jobs matter.

Yeah that would seem to be the bigger focus politically... will influence whether we do anything at all.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Maybe the Saudis are telling the truth, 18 arrests and two sackings of high ranking officials is a pretty strong statement

More likely that they've scapegoated a bunch of people to protect the prince.

[bitontheslide]

The Saudi's have changed their story again and are now saying he was murdered by a rogue operation, but of course, nothing to do with the crown prince ... yeah right

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-45935823

[Zizu]

Why do much attention on one guy ??

There are thousands dying every day all over the world ..


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[arista]

Jamal Khashoggi: Saudi journalist's body parts found,
in a garden,

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-sourc...found-11533202

[Northern Monkey]

Nasty business and shows that the Saudi’s are crap at assassinating people.They got caught straight away.