[Elliot]

It’s not even about people having these conversations it’s how Lewis thinks he’s above it all since he’s obviously going for that kind of aesthetic when in reality he’s just as petty and horny, if not more so, than the simpletons he mocks on his high horse. He’s never been aired having these conversations anyway, and mocked Kay for her passionate beliefs

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Well Lewis looks homeless so i guess he can relate

Perhaps he is...is that a reason to ridicule? Shame on you.

[Vanessa]

Are you kidding me? He's one of the most beautiful people i've ever seen!

[Ant.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Are you kidding me? He's one of the most beautiful people i've ever seen!

I've seen some gorgeous homeless people I wouldn't mind taking home with me

Good looks and looking homeless/being homeless are not mutually exclusive

[Pro Sniper]

Quote: "Let's make people aware of sexuality and ****ing suicide and **** like that"

And this is the person who proclaims to want "deep and meaningfuls"..

Him desperately trying to come across as some sort of "worldly guru" is highly embarrassing. Pseudointellectual moron.

[deanmontague]

Originally Posted by Pro Sniper

Quote: "Let's make people aware of sexuality and ****ing suicide and **** like that"

And this is the person who proclaims to want "deep and meaningfuls"..

Him desperately trying to come across as some sort of "worldly guru" is highly embarrassing. Pseudointellectual moron.

what's not meaningful about those topics?

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by BBDodge

In the off season forums are full of threads saying we want more intelligent discussions from housemates.

We changed our minds, we want a cross dressing Polish man squirting a Welsh man with a water pistol whilst screaming daddy.

[RileyH]

Originally Posted by Jordan.

We changed our minds, we want a cross dressing Polish man squirting a Welsh man with a water pistol whilst screaming daddy.

Sounds too good to be true

[Rob!]

Wow we can’t wait for Doctor Who series 54 to open with the historical and heartbreaking episode “Lewis.”

[lewys]

I want to see them guess who the public voted the ugliest nastiest fattest housemate who doesn’t shower NOT Lewis pretending to be woke

[Ammi]

...Serious Debates v chat and games/the chat threads..?....

[Cherie]

You have to laugh, given he tried for the showmance with the girl that he had no deep connection with what a hypocrite he is

[Kazanne]

And why not discuss the important things in life? these are the best conversations that I like, nothing at all wrong with talking about serious stuff,we need more of it.That's probably why I like Lewis ,as endless smutty talk I find childish and some of it gross and quite telling of some of the housemates personalities, everything in moderation.

[joeysteele]

He used them as examples of other things to discuss.
He added too, their life stories and life in general.

He also never inferred stopping talking about sexual matters, just not near doing so all the time.

Anyone else saying that would be getting praise, he's presented as dictating.

It was a game with that box they were doing.
It was nice to see he got a positive response to it, save for Tomasz.

[MB.]

Let's talk about politics, homeless people and suicide, baby! Let's talk about you and me! Let's talk about all the good things and the bad things that may be!

[Vanessa]

I also love a deep, serious conversation. Give me that over the sex talk any day of the week.

[bitontheslide]

People are who they are, they talk about what they want. What they talk about and how they behave determines how the public and the housemates perceive them and they are judged accordingly. Why should that be changed? To change it creates false impressions about the people.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

People are who they are, they talk about what they want. What they talk about and how they behave determines how the public and the housemates perceive them and they are judged accordingly. Why should that be changed? To change it creates false impressions about the people.

Exactly

[Toy Soldier]

TBH I'd like to talk to him about these things to see if he actually has any depth or insight, or if (as I strongly suspect) his desire to portray himself as deep and thoughtful is mostly window-dressing.

He's a confusing character at the moment because he waxes lyrical about being a deep thinker and philosophical, but to be honest, his interactions with others are severely lacking in any amount of deeper thought or understanding. He's intolerant of people and unwilling to even look for their depth unless it's offered to him on a platter... which is profoundly unphilosophical.

I mean yes we can all have our off days like that, and it's not an indicator of overall character, but we've seen him for 6 weeks now and I've rarely (if ever) seen him make much of an effort to examine the world from any perspective other than his own. So what exactly is it that he wants to talk about? . Perhaps he wants to preach, which isn't really the same thing.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

TBH I'd like to talk to him about these things to see if he actually has any depth or insight, or if (as I strongly suspect) his desire to portray himself as deep and thoughtful is mostly window-dressing.

He's a confusing character at the moment because he waxes lyrical about being a deep thinker and philosophical, but to be honest, his interactions with others are severely lacking in any amount of deeper thought or understanding. He's intolerant of people and unwilling to even look for their depth unless it's offered to him on a platter... which is profoundly unphilosophical.

I mean yes we can all have our off days like that, and it's not an indicator of overall character, but we've seen him for 6 weeks now and I've rarely (if ever) seen him make much of an effort to examine the world from any perspective other than his own. So what exactly is it that he wants to talk about? . Perhaps he wants to preach, which isn't really the same thing.

You are a loveable dick to be sure

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

TBH I'd like to talk to him about these things to see if he actually has any depth or insight, or if (as I strongly suspect) his desire to portray himself as deep and thoughtful is mostly window-dressing.

He's a confusing character at the moment because he waxes lyrical about being a deep thinker and philosophical, but to be honest, his interactions with others are severely lacking in any amount of deeper thought or understanding. He's intolerant of people and unwilling to even look for their depth unless it's offered to him on a platter... which is profoundly unphilosophical.

I mean yes we can all have our off days like that, and it's not an indicator of overall character, but we've seen him for 6 weeks now and I've rarely (if ever) seen him make much of an effort to examine the world from any perspective other than his own. So what exactly is it that he wants to talk about? . Perhaps he wants to preach, which isn't really the same thing.

I would add (to myself ) though that I think he does VERY MUCH WANT to be that person, which is maybe why he's so keen to go there, but... I think he needs to do a lot more work on himself and an absolute boatload of introspection before he's really able to operate on that level in any way. And currently, his own mind is far too stormy for him to even do that. In fact I think he'll end up doing himself some real emotional harm if he stares into the abyss for too long before he's sorted out his own mental landscape. Basically I think he's a little boy playing with fire (excuse the pun ) right now.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Cherie

You are a loveable dick to be sure

I've been saying it for years

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I've been saying it for years

if you didn't hide the loveable so well

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I would add (to myself ) though that I think he does VERY MUCH WANT to be that person, which is maybe why he's so keen to go there, but... I think he needs to do a lot more work on himself and an absolute boatload of introspection before he's really able to operate on that level in any way. And currently, his own mind is far too stormy for him to even do that. In fact I think he'll end up doing himself some real emotional harm if he stares into the abyss for too long before he's sorted out his own mental landscape. Basically I think he's a little boy playing with fire (excuse the pun ) right now.

He says he would love a conversation on certain subjects but he cannot have a conversation on his own.

Surely that's why you haven't seen it.

He has said no one else is interested or intelligent enough to have these conversations so don't blame him for them not happening. The level of general knowledge in there is abysmal.

I am sure, I would go nuts if all I was hearing all day was smutty innuendos, body functions and make up and beauty tips.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

He says he would love a conversation on certain subjects but he cannot have a conversation on his own.

Surely that's why you haven't seen it.

He has said no one else is interested or intelligent enough to have these conversations so don't blame him for them not happening. The level of general knowledge in there is abysmal.

I am sure, I would go nuts if all I was hearing all day was smutty innuendos, body functions and make up and beauty tips.

That's not my point really. My point is that if he currently doesn't have the ability to discuss anything (it seems) in a calm and measured way, then being so eager to delve into the depths of things like social politics, suicide and mortality is a really bad idea both for himself and for anyone who would be going there with him. There are types of conversation that it's frankly just naive to plunge feet-first into to shoot the breeze or pass the time. The abyss stares back, and Lewis to be brutally honest does not seem like an emotionally healthy person right now... if he's not careful, he'll fold like wet tissue paper. Is all I'm saying. Keeping interactions fun and light has a very good purpose and can be very important... he's desperate to insist that these interactions are "lesser" instead of just "different", and that to me strongly indicates that he doesn't know how to find the balance that will (not to be melodramatic but...) keep him sane.