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08-11-2018, 04:30 PM | #76 | |||
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08-11-2018, 04:31 PM | #77 | |||
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it’s a mad, mad world
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08-11-2018, 04:49 PM | #78 | |||
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08-11-2018, 04:53 PM | #79 | ||
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Being called a prick doesn't warrant him insulting them back and putting hands on them, two wrongs do not make a right. I definitely would do more than bat an eyelid if I saw a disproportionate response like that in a hospital or any other place. Bit worrying that you think a violent and abusive response is a good way of course correcting someone's behaviour tbh... If this wasn't a teenage boy, a lot of people who were on the driver's side would not have supported his behaviour. |
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08-11-2018, 05:08 PM | #80 | |||
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Has the driver been sacked yet??
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08-11-2018, 05:30 PM | #81 | |||
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If this went down as the guy is saying on facebook that he boarded the bus with a pass that wasn't scanning but had a receipt and the driver took both off him and called him a liar that is bad.
At that age I would have been stranded because I only carried bus money and say £20 and I would go home with a pound if that. Further more if he simply asked for both back to ask the next driver then he should have been given them back not called names. If the driver called him fat then him calling the driver a prick isn't far from the truth either.
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08-11-2018, 05:52 PM | #82 | |||
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All buses have CCTV so it will be easy to see who is abusive
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08-11-2018, 05:58 PM | #83 | |||
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swapped for scrabble
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"I'm only 15" = I'm untouchable and can't be held responsible for my actions
Yeah, sounds about right
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08-11-2018, 07:43 PM | #84 | ||
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08-11-2018, 08:38 PM | #85 | |||
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At first glance at the video, the guy lost his temper. Kicking him off the bus was fine. If the kid had touched him and threatened him, I'd understand though.
The "I'm 15" says it all right there. Victim-mentality shouldn't be ingrained like that in our young. If they act stupid and insulting, people sometimes can & will retaliate. The police aren't meant to handle petty disputes like this. I'm for looking the other way for simple disputes. Our jails are full and the police should be busy catching real criminals. My point, we should be able to sort some things out ourselves. Not get police/social media/the journalists involved at every step. I remember one time my friend & I were horsing around the back of a Metro here. It was empty, but we were a bit loud and it was a long ride. Mostly just being excitable, because we were looking out the windows and talking about the sights. Anyway, the bus driver wasn't happy. He stopped the bus, yelled back at us from his mirror and was ready to open the door. "If y'all don't calm down, you're getting off this bus"... did we have words? No. We both apologized. Then we sat the **** down. Yeah, there's been other bus drivers who were more "cool" about things like that or whatever, but if it's aggravating/distracting to him, then you can't really blame him. I've seen people who were likely gang-members who are OTT and in some cases threatening who aren't kicked off. Some bus-drivers are legitimately afraid when they're doing their job. Not saying this is this guy's excuse. He seems like he's just fed up with this. I do not think it's worth calling the police over. Though he may lose his job for touching a passenger. |
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08-11-2018, 08:47 PM | #86 | |||
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With city services like metro/transportation, I think the lines are more blurred than that. I would not have a problem with a bus driver removing someone physically from a bus who is being disruptive permitted it's not hitting them in the face and with any force to parts of their body. Just simply a removal from the vehicle. However, it depends on what society, and mainly the passengers helps them feel safe in that environment. So it's not always easy to determine how/where those boundaries should be. Personally, I feel safer when a bus driver does have more tools at their disposal because there are drug runs, gang-related activities, etc that are carried out through public transit. But, we have a police division just for Metro Transit, so probably they have some dispatch potential. Last edited by Maru; 08-11-2018 at 08:49 PM. |
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09-11-2018, 08:40 AM | #87 | |||
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There are signs up everywhere, hospitals, schools, shops, abuse towards staff will not be tolerated, I mean the bus driver could have called the police and waited for half an hour, instead he chose to push him off the bus for being abusive, his only crime in my eyes was to call him fat
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09-11-2018, 08:49 AM | #88 | |||
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not fat shaming?
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09-11-2018, 09:01 AM | #89 | |||
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That.
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09-11-2018, 09:15 AM | #90 | |||
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It's very interesting how some people think that unless a child is hit as a kid they won't be well behaved or respectful. I have two really well behaved/respectful teenagers and neither were hit as kids. It's not about hitting your kids, it's about disciplining them, hitting them as a method of discipline is lazy parenting. We don't tolerate adults hitting adults so why is an adult hitting a small child ok? I don't get the logic at all
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09-11-2018, 09:21 AM | #91 | |||
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Chav parents will in general bring up feckless kids whether they smack them or not and good parents will bring up good kids whether they smack or not Sometimes a wee smack on the bum can save a thousand words but naturally it needs to mean something and teach something and not just because you are angry etc |
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09-11-2018, 09:21 AM | #92 | |||
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Different world cultures.
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09-11-2018, 09:23 AM | #93 | |||
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If my mum was baking stuff for the church and I went into the kitchen and stole some scones she would be after me with a wooden spoon and I knew it so i learned not to.
She also washed my mouth out with soap when i swore at home and I never did it again. It was fckg horrible, the fat bitch |
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09-11-2018, 09:25 AM | #94 | |||
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09-11-2018, 09:26 AM | #95 | |||
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09-11-2018, 09:28 AM | #96 | ||
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Cultures are not fixed; it used to be the "culture" in Britain to stick orphans in workhouses to work for their gruel, and not even that long ago, but thankfully an end was put to that without people huffing and puffing about it being "part of our culture". And countless other examples. If something is a **** thing to do then it's a **** thing to do, regardless of culture, and physically attacking someone for any reason other than self-defense is a **** thing to do. Doubly so if it's a child.
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09-11-2018, 09:28 AM | #97 | |||
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It's lazy parenting in any part of the world, in any culture
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09-11-2018, 09:29 AM | #98 | ||
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09-11-2018, 09:31 AM | #100 | |||
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The kid in question’s 15. Not exactly a small child.
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