[Maru]

Very good article from the Atlantic. It's very long so I recommend reading it on their site instead of here.

Source: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ession/573949/

Exherpt:

Why Are Young People Having So Little Sex?
Despite the easing of taboos and the rise of hookup apps, Americans are in the midst of a sex recession.

These should be boom times for sex.

The share of Americans who say sex between unmarried adults is “not wrong at all” is at an all-time high. New cases of HIV are at an all-time low. Most women can—at last—get birth control for free, and the morning-after pill without a prescription.

If hookups are your thing, Grindr and Tinder offer the prospect of casual sex within the hour. The phrase If something exists, there is porn of it used to be a clever internet meme; now it’s a truism. BDSM plays at the local multiplex—but why bother going? Sex is portrayed, often graphically and sometimes gorgeously, on prime-time cable. Sexting is, statistically speaking, normal.

Polyamory is a household word. Shame-laden terms like perversion have given way to cheerful-sounding ones like kink. Anal sex has gone from final taboo to “fifth base”—Teen Vogue (yes, Teen Vogue) even ran a guide to it. With the exception of perhaps incest and bestiality—and of course nonconsensual sex more generally—our culture has never been more tolerant of sex in just about every permutation.
But despite all this, American teenagers and young adults are having less sex.

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[Cal.]

I’m busy!

[Smithy]

People used to have sex bc there was nothing else to do, we’ve got the world at our fingers what do we need sex for!

[Amy Jade]

I'd rather have a rub

[RileyH]

We're not slags

[Ant.]

Once you've done it once, why do it again? With an entire world to explore and careers to pursue there is no point in treading over the same ground twice

[MB.]

Brexit tbh

[LeatherTrumpet]

When I was their age I would bang a crack in a barbers floor, the lazy brats. If I didn't have a host of good books to read on the kindle I'd show them a thing or two.

Disgusting filth

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Smithy

People used to have sex bc there was nothing else to do, we’ve got the world at our fingers what do we need sex for!

Pro-creation

Constant stimulation though is not really a good thing imo. We need to be bored at least some of the time in order to force the mind to become more innovative. Otherwise, we just tend to regurgitate more, and our attitudes/thoughts become really repetitive... this is bad if we are facing some mental health crisis of some kind.

So yeah, sex is not as important as the mags make it... but... the lack of it may suggest a decline in connection wtih the world around us. Though I think some people are genetically pre-disposed to not see the world in a sexy way, and that's not really up for debate I think...

[Maru]

On the other hand (ha), it's lead to a decline in teenage birth rates which can only be a good thing... Farrah Abraham did that?

[Barry.]

Sex sounds boring tbh.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Barry.

Sex sounds boring tbh.

We're supposed to do a little bit more than listen during it I think.

But to your point:

Spoiler:

[LeatherTrumpet]

Maybe porn did it?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Maybe porn did it?

From the article:

The internet has made it so easy to gratify basic social and sexual needs that there’s far less incentive to go out into the “meatworld” and chase those things. This isn’t to say that the internet can give you more satisfaction than sex or relationships, because it doesn’t … [But it can] supply you with just enough satisfaction to placate those imperatives … I think it’s healthy to ask yourself: “If I didn’t have any of this, would I be going out more? Would I be having sex more?” For a lot of people my age, I think the answer is probably yes.

[lime]

Originally Posted by Maru

From the article:

Hm it is long maru but as someone who has been raped as a child in south africa ....somethings about this disturb me


60% of adults under the age of 35 accorrding to this live with their parents..for me that is not true in ireland or South Africa.


Rates of childhood abuse have deceases in recent decades...


I again have to disagee.


i know I will be called a feminazi.....For me it hasn't decreased ...but it is now called "banter" and sure the lad was only trying to cop a feel.Will look into this further Maru and those behind it

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Smithy

People used to have sex bc there was nothing else to do, we’ve got the world at our fingers what do we need sex for!

*looks at George with his balls the size of bowling balls*

[Toy Soldier]

The obvious answer is that there's now limitless other varieties of distraction / entertainment, available on demand 24/7. Mobile Internet, YouTube/Netflix, games have come on exponentially, online gaming (Call of Duty etc., now Fortnite)... Less in-person social interaction in general thanks to technology. A decline in physical contact is inevitable.

I'm in two minds about whether it's a good or bad thing really. Probably a good thing if it's just that kids are having less random sex just because they're bored, but a bad thing if it's because they're not forming as many actual relationships and thus not bothered about physical contact.

I was a good wee boy when I was a teenager, I didn't have sex until I was in a proper relationship . Couple of cheeky blowjobs and quite a lot of... Err... Heavy petting... But no P in V. I was so pure.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The obvious answer is that there's now limitless other varieties of distraction / entertainment, available on demand 24/7. Mobile Internet, YouTube/Netflix, games have come on exponentially, online gaming (Call of Duty etc., now Fortnite)... Less in-person social interaction in general thanks to technology. A decline in physical contact is inevitable.

I'm in two minds about whether it's a good or bad thing really. Probably a good thing if it's just that kids are having less random sex just because they're bored, but a bad thing if it's because they're not forming as many actual relationships and thus not bothered about physical contact.

I was a good wee boy when I was a teenager, I didn't have sex until I was in a proper relationship . Couple of cheeky blowjobs and quite a lot of... Err... Heavy petting... But no P in V. I was so pure.

Yeah for my part, the only person I have ever had sex with is my husband. I don't think that's a technology thing. We're both very traditional, and maybe that's also how we are. I know for me, I was very selective with who we chose to "couple" with... he withheld for religious reasons then.

My husband though, he had some promiscuous exes. Some that were quite pushy about it in a dysfunctional way (I think), but it didn't feel right for him at the time. He had female friends who had asked him to play a "bouncer" of sorts for when they were working a with photographer. I think it was for S&M. But he wasn't interested himself. People have always said he had a guardian vibe to him.

I have another friend a bit older than me (male), but still Millennial, that had one experience outside of marriage and after that, he said it didn't feel right and he felt terrible about it and would never do it again (it was also not good sex). That actually ruined prospects for him romantically speaking, because he was seeking something a little deeper than just lust. Until he finally found someone very similar to him idealogically and then they got married and now have a child.

It's very interesting to me, because we would expect that with sex being so prominent in our lives in our media, we'd all be living sex lives that are more akin to Hollywood. Women searching for lustful encounters and obsessed with d***, especially the way some portions of the women's "empowerment" movement went in the 90's, early 00's... I've heard a few people say both in media and irl, that the younger generation (younger than Millennials) may be moving back the other direction, towards non-transactional/non-casual sex and maybe even traditional values. I didn't really believe that, but after thinking about it maybe there is something to that sentiment given the statistics and the epidemic of mental health trends...

[Wizard.]

the fear of genital warts?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Riley.

the fear of genital warts?

You've seen my fanny, does it look like a cauliflower?

[lime]

Originally Posted by Maru

Yeah for my part, the only person I have ever had sex with is my husband. I don't think that's a technology thing. We're both very traditional, and maybe that's also how we are. I know for me, I was very selective with who we chose to "couple" with... he withheld for religious reasons then.

My husband though, he had some promiscuous exes. Some that were quite pushy about it in a dysfunctional way (I think), but it didn't feel right for him at the time. He had female friends who had asked him to play a "bouncer" of sorts for when they were working a with photographer. I think it was for S&M. But he wasn't interested himself. People have always said he had a guardian vibe to him.

I have another friend a bit older than me (male), but still Millennial, that had one experience outside of marriage and after that, he said it didn't feel right and he felt terrible about it and would never do it again (it was also not good sex). That actually ruined prospects for him romantically speaking, because he was seeking something a little deeper than just lust. Until he finally found someone very similar to him idealogically and then they got married and now have a child.

It's very interesting to me, because we would expect that with sex being so prominent in our lives in our media, we'd all be living sex lives that are more akin to Hollywood. Women searching for lustful encounters and obsessed with d***, especially the way some portions of the women's "empowerment" movement went in the 90's, early 00's... I've heard a few people say both in media and irl, that the younger generation (younger than Millennials) may be moving back the other direction, towards non-transactional/non-casual sex and maybe even traditional values. I didn't really believe that, but after thinking about it maybe there is something to that sentiment given the statistics and the epidemic of mental health trends...

Maru i think i have heard you say before you are a mother ...You shock and amaze me at the same time....this thing you have mentioned on many occasions ...because we disagree we are "Milenials".I'm 46 my husband is 55.Hollywood sex is irelavnt to us.Think maru you have us all wrong and maybe acually listren to us rather than the media.But sure what would I Know when apparentelty I'm oly a millenial

[lime]

Originally Posted by lime

Maru i think i have heard you say before you are a mother ...You shock and amaze me at the same time....this thing you have mentioned on many occasions ...because we disagree we are "Milenials".I'm 46 my husband is 55.Hollywood sex is irelavnt to us.Think maru you have us all wrong and maybe acually listren to us rather than the media.But sure what would I Know when apparentelty I'm oly a millenial

For the record the only person i voluntratley had sex with was my husband

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by MB.

Brexit tbh

deffo

[Twosugars]

sex drive down, mental health problems up
but of course is the young ones fault
again
nothing to do with dysfunctional world created by older generations, they are never to blame, of course

[Liam-]

Too much effort most of the time