[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yup. I won’t deny that I think veganism’s rooted in weak sentimentality for the most part. Like I’ve already said. Or that too big a number of vegans are intolerant and all-imposing on meat and dairy consumers.

I still don’t see how that’s overly nasty towards vegans specifically though. Maybe because I’m not ultra-PC about describing movements like veganism or on the lookout to take offense from meat eaters at the drop of a hat.

You don't think calling a whole group of people weak, intolerant and all-imposing based on their diet because of a few people you've met is nasty? Bloody hell, banging my head off a brick wall here then, clearly.

What I actually find hilarious is some (not all of course ) meat eaters reactions to vegetarians and vegans, it's ultra defensive even alot of times when people just say they're either vegan or vegetarian, no preaching just stating the fact that they are. It's really weird.

No idea what "PC" has to do with this conversation at all btw

[Twosugars]

by and large, I admire vegans and vegetarians, tho still not convinced it is an optimal diet considering humans are omnivores by design
a time will come (the sooner the better) when we will able to grow meat in vats on industrial scale; it will be identical to live animal meat
when that happens people of the future will look back at slaughtering animals for food as barbaric

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't think calling a whole group of people weak, intolerant and all-imposing based on their diet because of a few people you've met is nasty? Bloody hell, banging my head off a brick wall here then, clearly.

What I actually find hilarious is some (not all of course ) meat eaters reactions to vegetarians and vegans, it's ultra defensive even alot of times when people just say they're either vegan or vegetarian, no preaching just stating the fact that they are. It's really weird.

No idea what "PC" has to do with this conversation at all btw

PC is just a catch-all term at this point that's used by people incapable of arguing their points properly so they'll just accuse something they dislike of being 'PC' or 'Political' to try to discredit it without the effort.

Pure laziness.

[Twosugars]

re. overpopulation
I heard somewhere (ri xmas lectures I think) that reproduction rates are already falling, even in the 3rd world
but the way demographic pyramid curve works we are in for an increase in numbers this century and only then it will start falling, we're set to reach ~10-11 bln before that happens
...wish I remembered how it worked bc it was illuminating...

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

PC is just a catch-all term at this point that's used by people incapable of arguing their points properly so they'll just accuse something they dislike of being 'PC' or 'Political' to try to discredit it without the effort.

Pure laziness.

Nothing about my posts up there wasn’t backed up well enough on a personal level. I didn’t know I had to swear by an oath of pedancicity just to express an opinion someone doesn’t like.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

by and large, I admire vegans and vegetarians, tho still not convinced it is an optimal diet considering humans are omnivores by design
a time will come (the sooner the better) when we will able to grow meat in vats on industrial scale; it will be identical to live animal meat
when that happens people of the future will look back at slaughtering animals for food as barbaric

Apparently, certain blood groups suit being veggie(A) and certain suit eating meat (O) and B apparently is good with both. I've not actually looked into that very much though so I'm not sure how scientific it is

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Redway

Nothing about my posts up there wasn’t backed up well enough on a personal level. I didn’t know I had to swear by an oath of pedancicity just to express an opinion someone doesn’t like.

I wasn't actually referring to you, I was responding to Niamh's point about this not being a political issue.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

PC is just a catch-all term at this point that's used by people incapable of arguing their points properly so they'll just accuse something they dislike of being 'PC' or 'Political' to try to discredit it without the effort.

Pure laziness.

yup, same as virtue-signalling
you can't show any positive feelings and thoughts like empathy, understanding or tolerance bc that's virtue-signalling
you can't actually possess any virtues, it's all just virtue-signalling
suppose people like Jesus, Buddha or Gandhi made virtue-signalling their full time occupation lefty bastards

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

yup, same as virtue-signalling
you can't show any positive feelings and thoughts like empathy, understanding or tolerance bc that's virtue-signalling
you can't actually possess any virtues, it's all just virtue-signalling
suppose people like Jesus, Buddha or Gandhi made virtue-signalling their full time occupation lefty bastards

Oh or any man agreeing that something is sexist towards women is a "white knight"...not just someone who's not an asshole.........

[Redway]

This thread’s made me crave a steak and cheese sandwich from Subway.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Redway

This thread’s made me crave a steak and cheese sandwich from Subway.

I thought you said you liked meat?

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I thought you said you liked meat?

And steak’s not a type of meat?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Redway

And steak’s not a type of meat?

Not from Subway it isn't.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently, certain blood groups suit being veggie(A) and certain suit eating meat (O) and B apparently is good with both. I've not actually looked into that very much though so I'm not sure how scientific it is

There is a book on that subject called Eat right for your blood group or something like that ! Most people don't even know what blood group they are.

I'm B neg

[Toy Soldier]

Well it says Type O (which I am) should eat high protein and avoid grains, which is historically the diet I function best on (but I love carbs ).

However that's anecdotal and there's no real evidence at all that blood-type-diets are real and not just baseless naturopath nonsense .

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Not from Subway it isn't.

Lamest joke of the year. Well done.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Redway

Lamest joke of the year. Well done.

It's not a joke...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

There is a book on that subject called Eat right for your blood group or something like that ! Most people don't even know what blood group they are.

I'm B neg

Yeah I only found out my own blood group when I was pregnant, I'm A+ so veggie diet should suit me according to that

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well it says Type O (which I am) should eat high protein and avoid grains, which is historically the diet I function best on (but I love carbs ).

However that's anecdotal and there's no real evidence at all that blood-type-diets are real and not just baseless naturopath nonsense .

Yeah, I haven't really looked into it and whether or not there's any truth to it

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not a joke...

All the steak and chicken tikka I’ve been eating from Subway obviously wasn’t real meat then.

You’re not funny.

[armand.kay]

this is one of the resons why PETA's post really pissed me off people are now looking at this and putting this mess on all of vegasm. Let it be clear that when peta made they post they were dragged by everyone vegans, non vegans, people who don't eat....

another thing that pissed me off is that this is just another in many of peta's borderline rascist tweets in which they liken black and jewish peoples experiances to what animals are going through....They've been called out on it so many times but keep doing it. As a black vegan I don't claim them, I mean they routinely murder a bunch of animals themselves though....