[LeatherTrumpet]

breaking: tomorrows vote cancelled according to Bloomberg

[Nicky91]

[LeatherTrumpet]

strong and stable

[Tom4784]

Hopefully the voters remember this when it comes to the next election so they don't vote for slogans and whichever party gets the best headlines.

[LaLaLand]

Well I'm NEVER voting again for as long as I live if this gets overturned, seriously.

We're a democracy at the end of the day, and my vote to leave has basically been considered as "wrong", it's disgusting.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Well I'm NEVER voting again for as long as I live if this gets overturned, seriously.

We're a democracy at the end of the day, and my vote to leave has basically been considered as "wrong", it's disgusting.

The election invalidated the referendum essentially because people were dumb enough to vote for the Tories despite all the signs pointing to them ****ing up brexit. Anyone that voted leave and then voted Tory shot themselves in the foot.

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The election invalidated the referendum essentially because people were dumb enough to vote for the Tories despite all the signs pointing to them ****ing up brexit. Anyone that voted leave and then voted Tory shot themselves in the foot.

Basically yeah, thankfully I'm not one of those people.

Our country is an absolute laughing-stock in every way politically to the rest of the world now. Indecisive and childish.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Basically yeah, thankfully I'm not one of those people.

Our country is an absolute laughing-stock in every way politically to the rest of the world now.

It's silly really, Theresa May takes office and says there's not going to be another election and then changes her mind a few weeks later, she says, in the election, that no deal is better than a bad deal and now she's pushing a woeful deal. She's flip flopped on every issue before the election and people still voted for her, an ardent remainer paying lip service to brexit just because she said a slogan a bunch of times like she was a pokemon.

It's all a joke and given how badly Brexit's going so far, people likely will demand another vote and we'll repeat the whole thing over again and then why the Leave side loses, we won't hear the end of it.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Basically yeah, thankfully I'm not one of those people.

Our country is an absolute laughing-stock in every way politically to the rest of the world now. Indecisive and childish.

Same here Jonnii , what a complete farce the tories have made of this and just about everything else.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It's silly really, Theresa May takes office and says there's not going to be another election and then changes her mind a few weeks later, she says, in the election, that no deal is better than a bad deal and now she's pushing a woeful deal. She's flip flopped on every issue before the election and people still voted for her, an ardent remainer paying lip service to brexit just because she said a slogan a bunch of times like she was a pokemon.

It's all a joke and given how badly Brexit's going so far, people likely will demand another vote and we'll repeat the whole thing over again and then why the Leave side loses, we won't hear the end of it.

They can easily solve this by doing what they should have done in the first place, Leave or Remain have to win by a clear pre-decided margin for the vote to be upheld

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Hopefully the voters remember this when it comes to the next election so they don't vote for slogans and whichever party gets the best headlines.

For the many, not the few is not much better than strong and stable, our two main parties are abysmal and anyone who thinks Corbyn and Co would have done a better job is deluding themselves, the EU were always in the driving seat

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The election invalidated the referendum essentially because people were dumb enough to vote for the Tories despite all the signs pointing to them ****ing up brexit. Anyone that voted leave and then voted Tory shot themselves in the foot.

qoud you be saying the same had Remain won?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

They can easily solve this by doing what they should have done in the first place, Leave or Remain have to win by a clear pre-decided margin for the vote to be upheld

I agree with that but it'd never happen because that means that the Leave side would likely lose if they can't get a majority.

We're doomed to dance this dance for as long as it takes, it seems.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

For the many, not the few is not much better than strong and stable, our two main parties are abysmal and anyone who thinks Corbyn and Co would have done a better job is deluding themselves, the EU were always in the driving seat

In fairness, there was a lot more substance to the Labour campaign, it was May that pretty much got destroyed in every interview and debate because she couldn't do much if she couldn't say 'strong and stable' every two seconds. You can't really compare May's reliance on a slogan to Labour simply having one like all campaigns do.

If you want brexit, surely it would be better to put someone who actually wanted to leave the EU in charge over someone who is wishy washy at best. Brexit voters by large voted for a remainer to handle Brexit and now they are complaining that they aren't getting the brexit they wanted when the writing was on the wall before the election took place.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Well I'm NEVER voting again for as long as I live if this gets overturned, seriously.

We're a democracy at the end of the day, and my vote to leave has basically been considered as "wrong", it's disgusting.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Adam.

qoud you be saying the same had Remain won?

No because if Remaiin won, we wouldn't have had another general election and we wouldn't be in this situation so no, I wouldn't be saying the same.

Should be obvious really.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Well I'm NEVER voting again for as long as I live if this gets overturned, seriously.

We're a democracy at the end of the day, and my vote to leave has basically been considered as "wrong", it's disgusting.

I agree. It's pathetic. A second referendum will have the obvious outcome because anyone who voted to leave won't bother to vote because a majority of the government don't want it...and they will do everything in their power to not make it work. So much for democracy.

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Hayden

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Cherie

For the many, not the few is not much better than strong and stable, our two main parties are abysmal and anyone who thinks Corbyn and Co would have done a better job is deluding themselves, the EU were always in the driving seat

Yeah and determined to run us over !

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Well I'm NEVER voting again for as long as I live if this gets overturned, seriously.

We're a democracy at the end of the day, and my vote to leave has basically been considered as "wrong", it's disgusting.

It's not "wrong", full Brexit is just not feasible. It was never feasible. If you're going to be angry about anything, be angry about being lied to about it in the first place.

Basically some people promised that they could turn lead into gold and now they're admitting "lol wups obviously we can't actually do that", so it's a mess. It is ALREADY a mockery of democracy. Not because "what was voted for isn't being done", but because the public were allowed to vote on something that the government - now, and at the time - KNEW they COULD not deliver.

[michael21]

The pm has lie yet again she fired

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Jonnii

Well I'm NEVER voting again for as long as I live if this gets overturned, seriously.

We're a democracy at the end of the day, and my vote to leave has basically been considered as "wrong", it's disgusting.

I’d sooner call it outdated than wrong if thats any better tbf. There was a reasonably open debate back at the time of the vote... there isnt really anymore.. theres a pretty obvious correct answer from every perspective now.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

People voted for this ****show and who would run it whilst ignoring the obvious problems (Brexit campaign was run on lies and misinformation and people bought May's 'Strong and Stable' **** despite witnessing how flip floppy her government was before the election) and now they've got to live with the consequences as they are getting what they voted for.

We would be if politicians would stop blocking the bloody thing for political gain.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

In fairness, there was a lot more substance to the Labour campaign, it was May that pretty much got destroyed in every interview and debate because she couldn't do much if she couldn't say 'strong and stable' every two seconds. You can't really compare May's reliance on a slogan to Labour simply having one like all campaigns do.

If you want brexit, surely it would be better to put someone who actually wanted to leave the EU in charge over someone who is wishy washy at best. Brexit voters by large voted for a remainer to handle Brexit and now they are complaining that they aren't getting the brexit they wanted when the writing was on the wall before the election took place.

I would agree but there weren't too many options when Cameron headed for the hills, that was the point Boris should have stepped up but he covered his own back instead

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's not "wrong", full Brexit is just not feasible. It was never feasible. If you're going to be angry about anything, be angry about being lied to about it in the first place.

Basically some people promised that they could turn lead into gold and now they're admitting "lol wups obviously we can't actually do that", so it's a mess. It is ALREADY a mockery of democracy. Not because "what was voted for isn't being done", but because the public were allowed to vote on something that the government - now, and at the time - KNEW they COULD not deliver.

same happens in every general election

and in every referendum

unless you know of any where lies, exaggeration and inflated bollox was not all pervading?