[Cherie]

No idea why she thought she would get help from Europe they have been in the driving seat since the off

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

No idea why she thought she would get help from Europe they have been in the driving seat since the off

Very True Cherie

The PM is giving a Live Brussels New Conference shortly
she must admit - No Change in the deal, this week.


Late last night all news are are getting lip readers in.


[Juncker calls May 'woman of great courage' after spat ]

[arista]

The PM is Live now

[Nicky91]

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Probably the leave campaigns most coherent argument yet

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

ugh shut up already

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Underscore

ugh shut up already

+1

[arista]

The PM is Live in Parliament again
at around 3:30PM

Once Again saying NO 2nd vote

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

The PM is Live in Parliament again
at around 3:30PM

Once Again saying NO 2nd vote

ignoring the british people, that's the most stupid thing you can do as PM

and both her brexit deal or the no deal scenario could lead into riots in the UK between brexiteer camp and remainers camp i guess

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

ignoring the british people, that's the most stupid thing you can do as PM

sorry ,what on earth?

[arista]

Political Reporter
on LBC & SkyNewsHD Live both
just said the Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn
will demand the Vote on the EU Deal today
and if she refuses, he will call
for a No Confidence Vote in the PM.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Political Reporter
on LBC just said the Labour Leader Jeremy Corbyn
will demand the Vote on the EU Deal today
and if she refuses, he will call
for a No Confidence Vote in the PM.

Seems foolish, it won't work and it'll make him look weak when the No Confidence vote fails.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Seems foolish, it won't work and it'll make him look weak when the No Confidence vote fails.

Yes could well be that Dezzy.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Corbyn is a mess on this subject. he has not said one decent thing in the last 2 months about Brexit

[arista]

The PM is Live now - all media

[arista]

The Labour Leader
did not call a No Confidence Vote.
Even though he had print out of her statement , 30mins before



Loads of MP's are moaning about the PM not blocking "No Deal"

The PM will Publish her No Deal plans next month, reports say.


[Theresa May announces Brexit deal vote will be in January]
[She condemns calls for a second referendum]
https://news.sky.com/story/live-ther...endum-11584184

[arista]

Corbyn did at the end
table a vote of No Confidence in the PM.
The PM then left.


[Labour no-confidence motion being tabled now
This is motion - “That this House has no confidence in the Prime Minister
due to her failure to allow the House of Commons to have a meaningful
vote straight away on the withdrawal agreement and framework
for the future relationship between the UK and the EU.”

Being tabled now

6:06 PM - Dec 17, 2018]

https://news.sky.com/story/live-ther...endum-11584184



Everyone is saying it will not change a thing.

[Withano]

Fun

[joeysteele]

This PM really has a major issue.
She hears voices but seems unable or unwilling to listen to what is being said.

This no confidence motion of Corbyn's is interesting.
He has stated no confidence in the PM.
This doesn't threaten the government.

Now over 100 Conservative MPs said last week they had no confidence in her, so let's see how they vote outside a secret ballot.

Also the DUP have accused her of betraying near all she's told them.
They say in their view she can't be trusted.

Let's see how they vote in this too then.

[Nicky91]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-steps-up.html

No Deal Brexit doomsday preparation plans begin

[arista]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-steps-up.html

No Deal Brexit doomsday preparation plans begin

Yes 100 days to the Brexit Date
29 March 2019
But many MP's say they can stop No Deal
by votes against it.


[Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom said today that she believes a
'managed no deal' Brexit is possible if the PM's plan cannot get past Parliament]

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes 100 days to the Brexit Date
29 March 2019
But many MP's say they can stop No Deal
by votes against it.


[Commons Leader Andrea Leadsom said today that she believes a
'managed no deal' Brexit is possible if the PM's plan cannot get past Parliament]

that's why it's good May is preparing for a no deal scenario, warning businesses for empty shelfs in stores and lack of supply income from other countries

like we dutch provide you with flowers, or the spanish provide you with prosecco

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

that's why it's good May is preparing for a no deal scenario, warning businesses for empty shelfs in stores and lack of supply income from other countries

like we dutch provide you with flowers, or the spanish provide you with prosecco

Prosecco is Italian. Anyhoo… all those Dutch and Italian countries who supply us with stuff to buy are also going to suffer. Dutch bulb producers, German car makers, French wine producers... we import a lot of stuff from Europe and if we suddenly stop, it won't only be businesses in this country who struggle. The EU ought to remember that.

[Tom4784]

Imagine thinking that no longer trading with the UK could cause trouble for the EU.

The EU hold all the cards, we're the ones that are ultimately desperate for a deal and they've known that since the start. The UK is not a superpower in any sense, we don't have the clout to put pressure on the EU at all from outside of it and we aren't a big enough country to tip the balance of business if EU countries could no longer trade with us.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Imagine thinking that no longer trading with the UK could cause trouble for the EU.

The EU hold all the cards, we're the ones that are ultimately desperate for a deal and they've known that since the start. The UK is not a superpower in any sense, we don't have the clout to put pressure on the EU at all from outside of it and we aren't a big enough country to tip the balance of business if EU countries could no longer trade with us.

Do you think France wants more riots as it's people stand side by side with their wine and cheese importers?

Do you think the pressure all the people from all the losing out trades that export to us will.put on their governments will not be on their minds?

To be honest, Imo. Both sides hold some cards, only the turn and the river will decide what happens in this game...I'm going split pot.