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Old 11-01-2019, 03:24 PM   #51
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This argument has been done to death and back! We might as well read old threads, nobody has changed their stance, discussing it is a waste of time.
Nothing more to say than this really. If I read a stance on trans issues on TiBB that I haven't seen before in 5 other threads I'll be utterly flabberghasted. Substitute "women's wards" in the title for "prisons", "women's shelters" or "bathrooms" and you can read everyone's response to this thread.
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Mental illness ward is where they should be.
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:45 PM   #53
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Here in Canada there are no Male and Female wards. Wards are created based on the reason you are in. If it's heart health... you will be on a ward with men and woman. I've even seen men and woman in the same room ..... Maybe you all just need to get over the false notion that trans people are just trying to pull a fast one to get into the opposite sexes change rooms and hospital wards for a cheap thrill... and realize people are just people.
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there you go women of tibb, marsh TS and withano say


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Old 11-01-2019, 03:48 PM   #55
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Well thank goodness for the three of them being the real voice of reason around here. I'd have any one of them defend my rights as a woman any day
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Well thank goodness for the three of them being the real voice of reason around here. I'd have any one of them defend my rights as a woman any day
I still don't see pre op female to male trans battering down the doors to get into male facilities so where is the equality?
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Now you are just being petty, you yourself said you have seen someone ringing the buzzer and it taking 20 mins for someone to come.

I donít work in a hospital but over time visiting friends and family you see things happening.

I am not being petty, you keep bringing up aspects of care in hospitals as some sort of comparison, not me
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I still don't see pre op female to male trans battering down the doors to get into male facilities so where is the equality?
My own kid is female to male trans... and we are just starting the process of undergoing those changes... and I know for a fact HE would want to start out and end up in a Male ward... (if Male wards are even necessary) because HE thinks, feels, and identifies as male. When you go into a hospital you get assigned a bed based on your recovery period... not based on your gender going in...so if location matters and he will need attention to his male physical body... then he needs to be where that can happen... not in labour, delivery, or hysterectomys.
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I still don't see pre op female to male trans battering down the doors to get into male facilities so where is the equality?
Do you know this from personal experience or just assuming because their isn't a weekly outraged news article on the daily mail that it doesn't happen?

Regardless I'd say it's not really a fair comparison when female to male transitioning is a lot more accepted in society than male to female is. Of course more transwomen are seeking help than transmen.
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Do you know this from personal experience or just assuming because their isn't a weekly outraged news article on the daily mail that it doesn't happen?

Regardless I'd say it's not really a fair comparison when female to male transitioning is a lot more accepted in society than male to female is. Of course more transwomen are seeking help than transmen.
"when female to male transitioning is a lot more accepted in society than male to female is. Of course more transwomen are seeking help than transmen."

do you know this from personal experience or what?
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That's a funny way of saying "Stop demonising homosexuals and transsexuals as sexual deviants" but ok.
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Mental illness ward is where they should be.
A trans woman who is admitted to hospital with a heart condition should be put on a mental illness ward?

Don't think you thought that one through did you?
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My own kid is female to male trans... and we are just starting the process of undergoing those changes... and I know for a fact HE would want to start out and end up in a Male ward... (if Male wards are even necessary) because HE thinks, feels, and identifies as male. When you go into a hospital you get assigned a bed based on your recovery period... not based on your gender going in...so if location matters and he will need attention to his male physical body... then he needs to be where that can happen... not in labour, delivery, or hysterectomys.
A post like this makes this forum worth being
On,a real person with real experience of the subject being discussed.
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Honestly hospital wards wouldn't be such a big issue for me, there would be male visitors coming in and out all day anyway, I've been in short term wards (where you're released that day after a procedure/op). But I could see for elderly people who may be in there for longer periods why they'd rather not be in mixed words, for the sake of modesty. Changing rooms and prisons should not be mixed though imo
They have changing rooms and modesty screens for a reason though?

I can't imagine elderly women all strip off happily in front of one another either?

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Its so wrong ,needs stopping NOW !!
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They have changing rooms and modesty screens for a reason though?

I can't imagine elderly women all strip off happily in front of one another either?
Probably not I suppose
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well in Canada not the UK and not the NHS

so not really
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well in Canada not the UK and not the NHS

so not really
And you aren't trans, female or affected by the topic of this debate but you started the thread.

Careful LT... letting your transphobia, homophobia and Xenophobia hang out all in one thread may leave you a little to exposed.
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And you aren't trans, female or affected by the topic of this debate but you started the thread.

Careful LT... letting your transphobia, homophobia and Xenophobia hang out all in one thread may leave you a little to exposed.
And that's the end of discussion LT. You've been labelled with the phobias, so you lose.
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well in Canada not the UK and not the NHS

so not really
Didnít realise if you live in a different country it cancels out real life.
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Hospital wards a bit different to prisons and hostels, how many opportunities would predatory traps have to abuse women in a hospital? Changes of clothes and intimate exams are always done behind the curtains anyway.
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I am not being petty, you keep bringing up aspects of care in hospitals as some sort of comparison, not me
Of course I do!, it’s lack of care killing patients not trans patients.

I don’t think the average persons is going to be turned on by you taking a dump in a cardboard shaped hat behind the curtain let alone a trans one.

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