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11-01-2019, 05:43 PM | #76 | |||
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11-01-2019, 05:44 PM | #77 | |||
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As I previously said that has to do with staffing, or people not doing their jobs properly it has nothing to do with the issue being discussed
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11-01-2019, 05:45 PM | #78 | |||
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11-01-2019, 05:56 PM | #79 | ||
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The problem with gender is that people are trying to make it out to be this unknowable and unclassifiable thing and it's just not feasible in situations like this. I think if you have transitioned or have already begun that journey than you should be allowed on your preferred gender's ward but somebody identifying as the other gender isn't enough to consider them that gender in situations like this.
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11-01-2019, 06:00 PM | #80 | ||
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It’s an example of how you are making out that you are at risk from a trans person being on a ward when in reality it’s lack of staff putting you at risk.
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11-01-2019, 06:02 PM | #81 | ||
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11-01-2019, 07:02 PM | #82 | |||
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11-01-2019, 08:24 PM | #83 | ||
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If someone can provide a real-world example of that or anything similar actually happening, rather than a bizarre concern that it COULD theoretically happen, then there's a discussion to be had. Until then it's frankly all just blind outrage about nothing. |
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11-01-2019, 08:44 PM | #84 | ||
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11-01-2019, 08:50 PM | #85 | ||
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11-01-2019, 09:12 PM | #86 | ||
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11-01-2019, 09:32 PM | #87 | |||
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That said, it is ****ing hilarious, it's up there with that guy who worked in a vape store chimping out over nothing |
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11-01-2019, 10:02 PM | #88 | ||
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Oh yeah transsexuals like that only exist in America of course, and don’t go to hospitals, they only go GameStop. I guess trans people in the UK have access to far more advanced forms of hormone treatment, yeah that’s it |
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11-01-2019, 10:32 PM | #89 | |||
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Secondly, transitioning doesnt happen overnight. At what point would you like to declare they are transitioned? The surgery takes years of planning and meds previous and multiple surgeries... but because someone else might be "uncomfortable" with someone in transition being in a shared hospital room... that's taking the pale. They aren't at any higher risk of being violated by a transgender person than they are by any stranger of any gender sharing a room or ward with them.
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12-01-2019, 12:20 AM | #90 | ||
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You're comparing an extreme incident in a retail establishment to what is realistically happening in hospital wards. I can only assume because you have an agenda. Again, if you have an example of something like this happening in a hospital ward then there's something to discuss. If not then you're just adding to the pile of assumptions and bull**** media hysteria.
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12-01-2019, 12:22 AM | #91 | ||
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12-01-2019, 12:24 AM | #92 | ||
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I do laugh though. Just noticed the "MEN GET ACCESS" part of the title. As though female wards are under lock and key and a line of dribbling pervs have just been given special privileges.
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12-01-2019, 12:32 AM | #93 | ||
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But wait. They also have to carry out that attack in a ward, which almost universally in the UK, have four beds per room and an open door to a staffed corridor. And there's yet more! The assumption is that these wards are otherwise secure. They are not. I could literally drive to the nearest hospital and walk onto a ward, for any gender, and into a room on that ward, at more or less any time, and no one would stop me. But having transsexuals on the ward as patients? Far too dangerous! I honestly don't think more than two seconds of snap reaction outrage goes into these opinions, it's such utter nonsense. So... With all that in mind, it's pretty clear that the problem is not ACTUAL physical safety; it's about "safe space" and the perception / comfort of being safe (much like the women's toilets debate, with the bizarre logic that a man can't just walk into one at any time anyway). And yes of course, everyone has the right to feel safe and comfortable, especially when ill. So what's making them feel unsafe? Is it the "presence of disguised penis"? Or are they feeling nervous precisely because of the media hysteria, the bull****, the demonising, and people online winding each other up. Hmmm. |
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12-01-2019, 12:36 AM | #94 | ||
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Indeed Merch, like I said in the last post, if someone desperately wants to assault women in a hospital they can just go to any hospital and walk in the door! The idea that you have to pose as a pre-op transexual to get onto a women's hospital ward is just... Well... It's just incorrect. If it's not a secure ward (and if it's not a psych ward, it's not a secure ward) then it's not restricted access! They don't even have set visiting hours any more.
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12-01-2019, 04:29 AM | #95 | |||
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12-01-2019, 07:14 AM | #96 | |||
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12-01-2019, 07:15 AM | #97 | |||
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and its not about anyone attacking anyone its about respect for the women. men and women are not the same
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12-01-2019, 07:58 AM | #98 | |||
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12-01-2019, 08:04 AM | #99 | |||
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12-01-2019, 11:19 AM | #100 | ||
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Wards are not private areas. They are open to countless people of both genders passing through day and night. For modesty, they have screens, rooms and bathrooms. |
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