[Underscore]

leave her to rot and burn in hell

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Has she been jailed? That's a pretty major development, I'm surprised it's not been in the news.

She was jailed for 13 months, she has just been released, the story was huge news at the time, I remember Alf posting about it as she was from Hull

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Has she been jailed? That's a pretty major development, I'm surprised it's not been in the news.

what planet have you been on? it was all over the news, she took them to her boyfriend who had a "bad back"

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

What are we going to put her on trial for?

Terrorism.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Terrorism.

How are you going to prove she was involved, all she did was travel to Syria and have babies

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

what planet have you been on? it was all over the news, she took them to her boyfriend who had a "bad back"

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...gyptian-prison

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How are you going to prove she was involved, all she did was travel to Syria and have babies

When she's openly confessed to having "no regrets about joining ISIS"?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

When she's openly confessed to having "no regrets about joining ISIS"?

How long will she get 3 years, 5 years? a good lawyer will probably get her a suspended sentence

anyone who saw her interviews wants their head examining with regard to bringing her back, that point of view about wouldn't you do the same for your family applies very much in this case, I want to look after mine so she can stay where she is, I dont really care about the rights and wrongs of it

[armand.kay]

i've been really conflicted on how i feel about this entire story. On the one hand she's dangerous and i really wouldn't want someone like her set loose in Britain. also it's almost hilarious how unbothered she seems in all these interviews... However she is a British citizen and therefore our responsibility if the country she's in doesn't want to deal with her and she does deserve a fair trail. I'm also a bit uncomfortable with talk of her citizenship being revoked mainly because of the implications that would have on the citizenship of other (non white) 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc generation immigrants in the uk. What weight would a citizenship have if it can be taken away? How could something like this be abused in the future?

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

what planet have you been on? it was all over the news, she took them to her boyfriend who had a "bad back"

Yes I know that, but last I heard she was in a refugee camp. But she's now been removed from the refugee camp and put in jail again?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How long will she get 3 years, 5 years? a good lawyer will probably get her a suspended sentence

anyone who saw her interviews wants their head examining with regard to bringing her back, that point of view about wouldn't you do the same for your family applies very much in this case, I want to look after mine so she can stay where she is, I dont really care about the rights and wrongs of it

Yeah, who gives a sh*t about anyone else's family.

[Denver]

We should have a death penalty for terrorists.

They don't deserve to breathe let alone have rights

[AnnieK]

I keep completely flip flopping about this case - on one hand I agree with TS, I think she should be here as she is our responsibility to deal with but then I saw what she said about the attacks here - particularly the Manchester bombing and I want her to rot in hell.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I keep completely flip flopping about this case - on one hand I agree with TS, I think she should be here as she is our responsibility to deal with but then I saw what she said about the attacks here - particularly the Manchester bombing and I want her to rot in hell.

The issue is though she isn't rotting in hell... she's in another country, surrounded by other people. I genuinely think part of the issue is that people DO think of countries like Syria and Iraq as "that hell over there" where people can just stay and rot, rather than as countries full of innocent people, and someone else's home, where they deserve to be able to rebuild and not be left with the castoffs that we've decided aren't suitable "for somewhere like Britain".

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, who gives a sh*t about anyone else's family.

In this case yes, I really don't! You can care enough for both of us

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

In this case yes, I really don't! You can care enough for both of us

Yeah, but I'm sure you won't ever call for foreign criminals to be returned to their homeland when on British soil? You're just not that hypocritical.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, but I'm sure you won't ever call for foreign criminals to be returned to their homeland when on British soil? You're just not that hypocritical.

I've never called for that? criminals are generally put on trial and locked up here, are they not? unless they are here illegally in which case yes they should be deported of course, or are you saying British prisons only house Britons

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, but I'm sure you won't ever call for foreign criminals to be returned to their homeland when on British soil? You're just not that hypocritical.

If a foreigners is given residency I this country and breaks the law and goes to prison they should be shipped back to their own country

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I've never called for that? criminals are generally put on trial and locked up here, are they not? unless they are here illegally in which case yes they should be deported of course, or are you saying British prisons only house Britons

I didn't say that did I? I was saying you would never call for that.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I didn't say that did I? I was saying you would never call for that.

and I have never called for it, unless you think you know me better than than I know myself

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I didn't say that did I? I was saying you would never call for that.

Originally Posted by Cherie

and I have never called for it, unless you think you know me better than than I know myself

Again, that's literally what I posted.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Have you ever been to prison? I always find that the whole 'holiday park' narrative that gets thrown around in regards to prison life often comes from people who have never been.

So I need to have been in prison to have an opinion, have you been a member of a terrorist group has you hav an opinion on this thread?

Don’t ask silly questions dezzy.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

So I need to have been in prison to have an opinion, have you been a member of a terrorist group has you hav an opinion on this thread?

Don’t ask silly questions dezzy.

I want you to point out where I said you needed to go to prison in order to have an opinion on it, do that challenge and then go wipe the egg off your face.

As for your comparison, it's quite frankly dumb. You can have an opinion on prison but to say that it's a holiday park and make out that it's easy like it's a fact when you've never actually experienced it yourself makes your opinion uninformed, it's still an opinion, you're free to say it but you're uninformed on the matter as your views are based on assumptions with no basis in fact.

It has also jack **** to do with having an opinion of IS, you don't need to go to prison to know that it's a bad place to be and you don't need to join a terror group to have an opinion on terrorism. It's just a senseless comparison that's based on pure reactionary anger rather than logic and it shows.

Don't make silly comparisons, Sheriff.

Also do more to actually read and understand what's been said, this isn't the first time in this thread where you've misconstrued what I've said completely to suit your own argument.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I want you to point out where I said you needed to go to prison in order to have an opinion on it, do that challenge and then go wipe the egg off your face.

As for your comparison, it's quite frankly dumb. You can have an opinion on prison but to say that it's a holiday park and make out that it's easy like it's a fact when you've never actually experienced it yourself makes your opinion uninformed, it's still an opinion, you're free to say it but you're uninformed on the matter as your views are based on assumptions with no basis in fact.

It has also jack **** to do with having an opinion of IS, you don't need to go to prison to know that it's a bad place to be and you don't need to join a terror group to have an opinion on terrorism. It's just a senseless comparison that's based on pure reactionary anger rather than logic and it shows.

Don't make silly comparisons, Sheriff.

Also do more to actually read and understand what's been said, this isn't the first time in this thread where you've misconstrued what I've said completely to suit your own argument.

Please give it a rest, read what you wrote.

You asked have I been to prison as if I needed to have been in prison to know what it’s like. You are losing the plot.

[thesheriff443]

Stop trying to tell me what I can and can’t post.