[Livia]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said it was a storyline.

But that's what she was, the fat girl, and she played up to it with her cake baking.

This is true.

Remember that see-through body stocking she wore? That image is burned on to my retinas. Sometimes I have flashbacks and wake up screaming. Anyone who can wear that at her size is provoking comment.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Livia

It is. No real role models or heroes anymore, just vacuous reality stars with nothing relevant to say. Of all the injustices in the world, why are people so het up because a fat woman is referred to as a fat woman? She's a prime candidate for heart disease, cancer, diabetes. Great role model... Yay Gemma....

No one is het up she is referred to a fat woman, they use it to insult and abuse her, it's disgusting. Everyone knows shes fat but don't need to attack her for being fat. She may be a 'prime candidate' for all of those things so people should be encouraging her and supporting her to loose weight rather than body shaming and bullying her which won't help her at all.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

It is. No real role models or heroes anymore, just vacuous reality stars with nothing relevant to say. Of all the injustices in the world, why are people so het up because a fat woman is referred to as a fat woman? She's a prime candidate for heart disease, cancer, diabetes. Great role model... Yay Gemma....

I mean, I don’t think anyone has ever claimed her to be a role model, why would they? Cause she’s not, but if you want more role models in society then you should really be against grown adults being horrible about someone they don’t know just because they can, that’s not something to aspire to either, the world would be a nicer place if people kept their needless vitriol to themselves.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No one is het up she is referred to a fat woman, they use it to insult and abuse her, it's disgusting. Everyone knows shes fat but don't need to attack her for being fat. She may be a 'prime candidate' for all of those things so people should be encouraging her and supporting her to loose weight rather than body shaming and bullying her which won't help her at all.

Why is it down to us to "support" this cretin in her weight loss.

She'll either lose it or she won't. That'll be her decision either way.

One things for certain, fat or thin she'll still be a talentless, vacuous, bullying fake.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I mean, I don’t think anyone has ever claimed her to be a role model, why would they? Cause she’s not, but if you want more role models in society then you should really be against grown adults being horrible about someone they don’t know just because they can, that’s not something to aspire to either, the world would be a nicer place if people kept their needless vitriol to themselves.

So are you saying Liam you have never said anything horrible about people you don't know ? really? besides Livia didn't say anything horrible just factual to some of us,she is fat,she is lazy and by all accounts not a very nice person , imo she is a spoilt brat, if you like her that's fine,just as it's fine for others not to like her, it's not her weight that I don't like it's her delusions that she is some kind of massive celebrity,what is she even famous for?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LukeB

No one is het up she is referred to a fat woman, they use it to insult and abuse her, it's disgusting. Everyone knows shes fat but don't need to attack her for being fat. She may be a 'prime candidate' for all of those things so people should be encouraging her and supporting her to loose weight rather than body shaming and bullying her which won't help her at all.

Originally Posted by Liam-

I mean, I don’t think anyone has ever claimed her to be a role model, why would they? Cause she’s not, but if you want more role models in society then you should really be against grown adults being horrible about someone they don’t know just because they can, that’s not something to aspire to either, the world would be a nicer place if people kept their needless vitriol to themselves.

She puts herself on view. This is a forum where we talk about reality TV.... If someone places themselves in the limelight with no talent then she is putting herself up for comment just like BB contestants do. So if that comment is vitriolic? Well... shrug.

I am not contemptuous of her because she's fat. I am contemptuous because she is vacuous, dull, not very bright.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So are you saying Liam you have never said anything horrible about people you don't know ? really? besides Livia didn't say anything horrible just factual to some of us,she is fat,she is lazy and by all accounts not a very nice person , imo she is a spoilt brat, if you like her that's fine,just as it's fine for others not to like her, it's not her weight that I don't like it's her delusions that she is some kind of massive celebrity,what is she even famous for?

Of course I have, but I prefer to comment on people’s character rather than their aesthetic, if there are so many unliveable traits in a person, why do people feel the need to sink down to pulling apart the way they look in such a nasty way? That’s what I don’t get, what does someone get from it?

I didn’t say Livia did say anything horrible, I was talking in general about comments I’ve seen.

[Livia]

But Liam... don't you think that she comes across as a manipulative, rude, selfish person? For me she has no redeeming qualities at all.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Why is it down to us to "support" this cretin in her weight loss.

She'll either lose it or she won't. That'll be her decision either way.

One things for certain, fat or thin she'll still be a talentless, vacuous, bullying fake.

It is her decision but although it's not down to anyone to support but nasty comments and abuse will make it worse.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It is her decision but although it's not down to anyone to support but nasty comments and abuse will make it worse.

Her ego and the public persona she's manufactured suggest to me that she doesn't give a toss what anyone thinks.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Livia

But Liam... don't you think that she comes across as a manipulative, rude, selfish person? For me she has no redeeming qualities at all.

She can be all of those things yeah, there’s no debating that

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Liam-

She can be all of those things yeah, there’s no debating that

LOL... Okay then, we agree! To an extent...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Livia

She puts herself on view. This is a forum where we talk about reality TV.... If someone places themselves in the limelight with no talent then she is putting herself up for comment just like BB contestants do. So if that comment is vitriolic? Well... shrug.

I am not contemptuous of her because she's fat. I am contemptuous because she is vacuous, dull, not very bright.

Yes we talk about reality tv but we talk about their actions and behaviour and that's how it should always be not get personal and bring appearances and weight into it. It's all good if you say she's rude etc but it's a bit too far for insults about her appearance, it doesn't make you a better than them.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yes we talk about reality tv but we talk about their actions and behaviour and that's how it should always be not get personal and bring appearances and weight into it. It's all good if you say she's rude etc but it's a bit too far for insults about her appearance, it doesn't make you a better than them.

I'm not "better" than her in the human sense. But I am thinner and less liable to die from obesity. I'm also better educated, because I worked at it. But there she is in all her glittery ignorance, saying how wonderful it is to be the GC, when she could do something about her obesity... it's self-inflicted. So my sympathy is zero.

[bitontheslide]

was gemma in Surrey last night ?

[Jase.]

"Gemma has apparently likened her situation with Arg to that of Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper's characters in A Star Is Born, who struggle when one becomes more famous than the other"

SCREAMING