[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Specsavers, Parm?

I will stick with my 1 pound shop reading glasses thank you very much.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I will stick with my 1 pound shop reading glasses thank you very much.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I will stick with my 1 pound shop reading glasses thank you very much.

calling them reading glasses if you complain you can't read posts correctly is a bit of a stretch

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

calling them reading glasses if you complain you can't read posts correctly is a bit of a stretch

people should type them out correctly, and less lazily, by using correct abbreviations.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

people should type them out correctly, and less lazily, by using correct abbreviations.

US is correct, alongside USA

[LeatherTrumpet]

Parmy is bang on right

It's USA

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Livia

Whatever did I do here without you here to show me - constantly - where I was going wrong.

You had me

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Parmy is bang on right

It's USA

No, he isn't.
Look up any online style and grammar site: US, U.S. or USA/U.S.A are all acceptable

like you also say UK not UKGB&NI

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You had me

Now she's got us both: TS and TS2

[The Slim Reaper]

It's POTUS not POTUSA.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

No, he isn't.
Look up any online style and grammar site: US, U.S. or USA/U.S.A are all acceptable

like you also say UK not UKGB&NI

The ones with the dots are NOT acceptable.

[Twosugars]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ion-membership

Man who plotted MP's murder avoids retrial for National Action membership
Neo-Nazi Jack Renshaw revealed to be convicted paedophile after case dismissed

A neo-Nazi who admitted plotting the murder of the Labour MP Rosie Cooper will not face a second retrial for membership of the banned group National Action.

Jack Renshaw, 23, bought a 48cm (19in) gladius knife to kill the West Lancashire MP and a female police officer against whom he had a grudge, the Old Bailey heard. The plan was scuppered by Robbie Mullen, who was at a meeting in a pub when Renshaw announced he was going to kill Cooper.

It happened just a year after the Labour MP Jo Cox was fatally stabbed and shot by the far-right extremist Thomas Mair.

Renshaw, from Skelmersdale, Lancashire, had admitted making preparations to kill his local MP in 2017 and making a threat to kill the police officer Victoria Henderson, who was investigating him.

However, he denied membership of the banned extreme rightwing group National Action, as did Andrew Clarke, 34, and Michael Trubini, 36, from Warrington.

The jury deliberated for more than 48 hours but were unable to reach majority verdicts on any of the defendants following the retrial. The judge, Mrs Justice McGowan, discharged the jury after being told there was no prospect of them reaching verdicts if given more time.

The prosecutor, Duncan Atkinson QC, told the court that after careful consideration a decision had been made not to seek a further retrial.

It can now be reported that Renshaw is a convicted paedophile who was jailed for 16 months last June months after he groomed two underage boys online.

Jurors at Preston crown court found him guilty of four counts of inciting a child to engage in sexual activity.

The court heard how the convicted National Action leader, Christopher Lythgoe, 32, of Warrington, and his right-hand man Matthew Hankinson, 24, from Merseyside, were present when Renshaw outlined his plans.

National Action is the first extreme rightwing group to be proscribed by the government since the second world war. It was banned in December 2016 by the then home secretary, Amber Rudd, over its support of Cox’s murder.

Lythgoe reacted to the news of the MP’s death by telling members they would “just shed one skin for another”. The north-west contingent continued to meet in pubs and trained together at a mixed martial arts gym in Warrington, it was alleged.

Mullen, however, became disillusioned and began leaking information about National Action to the campaign group Hope Not Hate. By July 2017, Renshaw was on police bail for making hate speeches, for which he was later convicted.

Having decided to try to die via “suicide by cop” rather than face a seven-year jail term, he bought a large machete to take revenge on Henderson and kill Cooper. Renshaw unveiled his plan at the Friar Penketh pub in Warrington on 1 July 2017. Afterwards, Mullen, 25, from Widnes, Cheshire, reported the threat to Hope Not Hate and Renshaw was arrested.

Mullen, who was granted immunity from prosecution, told jurors: “He said he was going to kill his local MP, Rosie Cooper. I said:” ‘Are you sure?’ and he said: ‘Yeah’.

“He said he would kill her, then try to take some hostages to lure the police officer that was investigating him to try to kill her because she was the reason behind it all. He said his mind was made up. He had bought a machete.”

Renshaw said he would wear a fake suicide vest so he would be killed by police, Mullen added.

As she discharged the jury from returning verdicts, Mrs Justice McGowan told them: “You have obviously worked your way through all the material so we understand and respect the decision you have made.”

She remanded Renshaw into custody to be sentenced on 17 May.

[arista]

Yes good job one of that group gave him up to the Police.
Just in time.

[Liam-]

Doesn’t like foreigners but he’ll shag little boys, we love the hypocrisy of the far right

[Twosugars]

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-supremacists

Muslims and Jews face a common threat from white supremacists. We must fight it together
From Christchurch to Pittsburgh, the two communities are under attack. It is time to stand united
Jonathan Freedland and Mehdi Hasan


The two of us have been having the exact same conversation for the past decade. About antisemitism and Islamophobia. One of us a Muslim, the other a Jew, we have conducted it in public and in private, on Twitter and on TV. We’ve agreed; we’ve argued; we’ve even wandered off topic to trade tips on how to get through a fast. Now we’ve come together because of the urgent and common threat that we face. Both of our communities are under violent attack from far-right white supremacists.

In Christchurch, New Zealand, last month a white supremacist gunned down 50 Muslims at prayer. In Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, last October a white supremacist gunned down 11 Jews at prayer. Both killers were clear in their loathing of both Jews and Muslims. Both subscribed to the “great replacement theory”, which casts Muslims and other minorities as “invaders” of western societies and a threat to white, Christian majorities. In this narrative, the supposed invasion is a wicked plot orchestrated by the same hidden hand behind all malign events through world history: the Jews. The point was put concisely in an online remark reposted by the Pittsburgh murderer: “It’s the filthy EVIL jews Bringing the Filthy EVIL Muslims into the Country!!”

This is how our haters see us: Jews and Muslims connected in a joint enterprise to effect a “white genocide”. It is an unhinged and racist conspiracy theory – and it has both of our communities in its murderous sights. So there can only be one response: Muslims and Jews must stand and fight it together.

We realise this will not be easy. Both of us are deeply rooted in our respective communities, and we know them well enough to recognise that there are plenty of Jews and Muslims who have long seen the other as an opponent, even as an enemy. Given the deep connection that Jews and Muslims feel with Israel/Palestine, that is perhaps unsurprising.

We understand how this has come about. Jews and Muslims have spilled each other’s blood, in acts of violence that have left deep scars. Jihadists have targeted Jews across continental Europe, whether it be the killing of children in a school in Toulouse in 2012 or shoppers at a kosher supermarket in Paris in 2015. Muslims share the pain of Palestinians living through more than half a century of brutal Israeli occupation, with regular eruptions of violence that have left civilians, including children, dead. To be clear: we are not playing a game of moral equivalence here; rather, we are recognising the reasons for mutual antagonism.

Nor are we denying that there is much prejudice within each community towards the other. Witness the leader of a New Zealand mosque who recently suggested that the massacre in Christchurch was the secret handiwork of Mossad: an age-old, anti-Jewish conspiracy theory in contemporary garb. Or listen to the interfaith activist appalled to discover that a Facebook group of her fellow British Jews was awash with anti-Muslim racism. Across the Muslim-majority world, anti-Jewish tropes and conspiracies have been endorsed and even repopularised. In the US, right-wing Jewish figures have been among the most prominent supporters of the “Islamophobia network”. There is a shared error here: both the Muslim who hates Jews and the Jew who hates Muslims forget that the white supremacist hates them both. But that such people exist is proof that the narrative of white supremacism does not just infect white communities – it can infect us all.

Just as we acknowledge that the communities we were born into harbour prejudice, so we are ready to say the same of our chosen political community. We need no lectures on the importance of tackling antisemitism and Islamophobia on the left as well as on the right. Both of us have condemned Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour party for its failure to tackle anti-Jewish racism within its ranks, while one of us has discussed the importance of avoiding antisemitic tropes in conversation with the controversial Democratic congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who herself has been the victim of liberal Islamophobes. Both of us have condemned anti-Muslim bigotry in liberal-left circles too, whether it be the British scientist Richard Dawkins comparing Islam to cancer less than a fortnight after the Christchurch massacre, or US TV show host Bill Maher referring to Islam as “the mafia”.

But this is no time for whataboutism. Yes, the jihadist threat to Jews has not gone away. Yes, some liberals have an Islamophobia problem, while some on the left are guilty of antisemitism, both of which can cause our communities to feel fearful and isolated. Fascism, however, is back with a vengeance. The growing and lethal threat to life and limb for Muslims and Jews is now coming not from the far left but from an emboldened and violent far right. In the US, in 2018, every single one of the 50 extremist-related murders was linked to the far right, according to the Anti-Defamation League. In the UK, according to the Home Office, between 2017 and 2018 the number of white suspects arrested for terror offences outstripped those of any other ethnic group – the first time in more than a decade. In Germany, official figures suggest that nine out of 10 antisemitic crimes in 2017 were perpetrated by members of far-right or neo-Nazi groups.

Should we be surprised? White supremacists are on the march. They see Islam as incompatible with western life. We reject that claim wholeheartedly. Jews too were long told their faith had no place in western society: they were wrong about Judaism and they are wrong about Islam.

That these two hatreds are linked on the right is clear, and not only in the minds of deranged killers. A recent Pew survey of 15 western European countries found that “attitudes toward Jews and Muslims are highly correlated with each other. People who express negative opinions about Muslims are more likely than others to also express negative views of Jews.”In the US, a Gallup study in 2010found people “who say they feel ‘a great deal’ of prejudice… toward Jews are about 32 times as likely to report feeling ‘a great deal’ of prejudice toward Muslims”. Put simply, the kind of people who hate one of us are more likely to hate the other too.

Such people are animated by a racist ideology that goes wide and deep, amplified by powerful politicians of the right at the highest levels. Take Donald Trump, who says “Islam hates us”, and bans Muslims from five countries – but also rails against “globalists”, understood by antisemites as code for Jews, and in particular, the antisemites’ favourite bogeyman, George Soros. Or top Brexiter Nigel Farage, who speaks of a “Jewish lobby” and condemns Soros as “the biggest danger to the entire western world” – but has also denounced “wholly Muslim” areas of London and gave us the infamous “Breaking Point” poster.

In our view, it is no coincidence that the rise of Trump and Brexit has been matched by a rise in hate crimes on both sides of the Atlantic targeting both of our communities. In the US, hate crimes against Jews rose by more than a third and accounted for 58% of all religion-based hate crimes in 2017, with Muslims in second place, while in the UK, more than half of religiously motivated attacks in 2018 were aimed at Muslims, with Jews not far behind.

This is the climate in which we are both worried about the safety of our children. We share each other’s fears. And we both welcome signs that others are beginning to do the same. It’s heartening that Muslim groups raised more than $200,000 for bereaved families at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, and heartening too that the Jewish Federation of Greater Pittsburgh is now raising money for the victims of the New Zealand mosque attacks.

They are setting an example for us all. It is long past time that we Muslims and we Jews looked beyond our undeniable differences, recognise that we face a common and deadly threat, and agree there is only one way to fight it: together.

• Jonathan Freedland is a columnist for the Guardian based in London; Mehdi Hasan is a senior contributor to The Intercept based in Washington DC

[Twosugars]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-hope-not-hate

Far-right terrorists are one step ahead of you in UK, police told
Security services ‘don’t know where threat is coming from’, says charity Hope Not Hate

The UK’s police and security services remain dangerously ill-equipped to identify and counter the long-term terrorism threat from a new wave of far-right politics, according to researchers who helped head off a plot to assassinate a Labour MP.

The anti-racism charity Hope not Hate was instrumental in foiling a plan to murder the West Lancashire MP Rosie Cooper. The legal case at the centre of this plot came to a conclusion on Tuesday.

Senior security figures including the head of MI5, Andrew Parker; the head of UK counter-terrorism policing, Neil Basu; and the Metropolitan police commissioner, Cressida Dick, have warned that the far-right threat is growing rapidly.

But Hope Not Hate (HNH), whose undercover operative Robbie Mullen exposed the plot to kill Cooper after infiltrating the banned neo-Nazi group National Action (NA), said the security services and police were failing to keep up with potential terrorists.

“They don’t know where the threat is coming from and don’t know where to find it, and then they lump in what they think is a threat from the far left,” said Matthew Collins, a research director at HNH, who was also Mullen’s handler.

After the effective destruction of NA – which was the first far-right group to be banned in Britain since the second world war – HNH warned of the long-term threat from a young generation of violent neo-Nazis who have emerged from splits in the far right.

The charity cited groups such as the Sonnenkrieg (Sun war) Division, which HNH described as the third generation of NA.

“The far-right terror threat has always been there. People in groups like C18 have always had sick dreams and fantasies of killing black and Asian people, but they rarely went and did it because they didn’t want to die themselves or go to prison for a long time,” said Collins.

“That’s why National Action and the Atomwaffen [Nuclear weapons] Division, an American group, have been developing the idea of a ‘white jihad’. That was to persuade and convince people that there was spiritual reason for why they could die or go to prison.”

The police have been slow to grasp such concepts, he added, and have largely still been reliant on tipoffs, 999 calls out of the blue, or terrorists making mistakes.

“Those who are involved in groups like the Sonnenkrieg Division have been meeting on gaming forums and other places. The groups that are picking up where NA left off are smaller and more dangerous. If one gets banned they then pick up the mantle and run with it.”

According to academics, extremist groups are using the resurgence of rightwing politics, particularly online but also on the streets, as friendly territory within which they can act more openly and recruit.

“Globally we are seeing the rise of right populism,” said Jacob Davey, a researcher at ISD Global, which helps to design and implement counter-radicalisation strategies. “We can see more extreme groups pushing and pulling and engaging with these and using this as an opportunity.”

Individuals and groups with hard-right ideologies infiltrate into groups that they see have parallel, but legitimate grievances, he said. “The Football Lads Alliance initially had thousands of people at their demonstrations and I would have hesitated to call that a far-right movement; I think it was a lot of people who were legitimately concerned about terror. But what you see is entry into these groups by the far right.”

Online communities developing around these radical, but comparatively soft rightwing ideologies are also used by more extreme groups as a gateway to direct potential recruits harder material hosted on private chats hosted on WhatsApp, Telegram and Discord servers.

“Social media is crucial to the current expansion of the extreme right,” Davey said. “It’s lowered the barrier to getting involved in the extreme right. Twenty years ago if you were that way inclined … you had to go to a certain pub, you had to go to make your way to a certain rally.

“But also you [were] more publicly aligned with these groups, you might lose your job, you might lose friends or family.”

A shared culture links adherents, rather than loyalty to one particular group, said Paul Jackson, a historian who specialises in the history of fascism. The most extreme coalesce around an ideology – revolutionary ultranationalism or racially driven politics – that rejects liberal democracy, and distinguishes them from rightwing figures such as Nigel Farage or Tommy Robinson.

“This type of neo-Nazism is more intellectual than perhaps you may find within neo-Nazis of the Blood and Honour white power music scene, which used to be the youth culture, but now they are getting on to their 50s and 60s,” Jackson said.

“It likes to see itself as extreme within the wider far-right milieu. National Action would comment disparagingly on the English Defence League and the BNP as dad-like figures who didn’t have the necessary dynamism.”

However, they were more of a “talking shop revelling in the idea of violence” rather than an actual violent extremist cell planning attacks, Jackson said. “The danger is that people on the fringes decide to act by themselves. That’s what we find with people like [Jo Cox’s killer] Thomas Mair or Anders Breivik.”

The number of people referred to the UK government’s counter-extremism programme over concerns about far-right activity has risen by more than a third, recent figures show.

A Home Office spokesperson said: “Our counter-terrorism strategy, Contest, addresses all forms of terrorism and no individual or group is free to spread hate or incite violence. We do not routinely comment on whether organisations are or are not under consideration for proscription.”

[arista]

"That’s what we find with people like [Jo Cox’s killer] "


Yes a Evil Nazi one off
Terrorist.

Picked a Easy Target.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by arista

"That’s what we find with people like [Jo Cox’s killer] "


Yes a Evil Nazi one off
Terrorist.

Picked a Easy Target.

not one off

a plan to murder the West Lancashire MP Rosie Cooper

that was another

not to mention many death threads coming MPs way, some of them may try their luck

[arista]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

not one off


that was another

not to mention many death threads coming MPs way, some of them may try their luck

He got arrested before
he could kill anyone.

[Twosugars]

that's not the point

the point is there was a credible attempt

if they catch terrorists before bombing it doesn't make them not terrorists does it

[Twosugars]

.

From Christchurch to Colombo, Islamists and the far right are playing a deadly duet
Scott Atran
The atrocities in Sri Lanka are part of a spiral of violence that poses profound questions for liberal societies



How should we make sense of the Easter Sunday church and hotel bombings in Sri Lanka that killed more than 250 people and wounded 500? Now that Islamic State appears to have claimed responsibility for the attacks, the question arises: is this merely the latest symptom of an epidemic of Islamist violence, motivated by a belief in offensive jihad (“holy war”)?

The answer is complex and not necessarily in line with public perceptions. Islamist terrorism has been decreasing globally, and particularly in the west, since its peak in 2014-15 when Isis established its caliphate. In recent years, however, far-right supremacist terrorism has risen sharply, to more than one-third of terror attacks globally, even accounting for every extremist killing in the US in 2018. Yet it was more likely to be overlooked or tolerated by western polities, because of cultural history, familiarity and legal protections extended to domestic groups (such as US constitutional safeguards for freedom of speech and the right to bear arms). Thus, attacks by Muslims between 2006 and 2015 received 4.6 times more coverage in US media than other terrorist attacks (controlling for target type, fatalities, arrests).

These two violent ideologies are not separate, but work in tandem, hammering away at the political order, which is increasingly vulnerable for a number of reasons. In reaction to last month’s massacre at mosques in Christchurch, Isis spokesman Abu Hassan al-Muhajir called for Muslims “to avenge their religion” anywhere and everywhere. And that, according to a video posted this week under the Isis banner, was precisely the “bloody reward” meted out to worshippers and tourists in Sri Lanka. In the west, far-right leaders, such as Gerard Batten of Ukip, intimated that this was an attack by Islam on Christianity, which mainstream officials apparently won’t acknowledge because, as Batten tweeted, “the world does not fear [Christians], as it does the ‘religion of peace’” – a perceived asymmetry that the Christchurch suspect had sought to reverse by live-streaming his actions on the internet.

The spread of this transnational terrorism, whether Islamist revivalism or resurgent ethno-nationalism, is fragmenting the social and political consensus globally. That is precisely its aim: to create the void that will usher in a new world, with no room for innocents on the other side, and no “grey zone” in between.

So far this century, it has mostly taken the form of offensive jihad. Through extreme violence and intimidation, but also via the persuasive promotion of absolutist beliefs, the goal is to advance a strict and radical form of Islamic governance everywhere that “chaos and savagery” (tawahoush) can be created. But now, far-right supremacist terrorism is gaming off the jihadist threat, much as fascism played off communism. Jihadist groups, in turn, after diminishing in countercultural appeal following the killing of Osama bin Laden and Isis’s military defeats, are poised for renewal as attractors to the disaffected: in part because of the rise of the far right, in part because the socio-political conditions that gave rise to these groups have not appreciably changed.

Far-right terrorism has increasingly co-opted key jihadist precepts and tactics (although it tends to involve lone actors linked mainly through social media). In 2007, the supremacist group Aryan Nations proclaimed an “Aryan jihad” to destroy the “Judaic-tyrannical” system of “so-called western democratic states”. Dylann Roof, who in 2015 killed nine African-American churchgoers in South Carolina, made his own link. Responding to a court examiner, he said he was “like a Palestinian in an Israeli jail after killing nine people … the Palestinian would not be upset or have any regret”. As a prelude to the Christchurch attack, the suspect posted a manifesto citing Roof and Anders Breivik, the Norwegian who killed scores of leftist youth in 2011, as inspirations. It adopts a version of the jihadists’ reasoning to justify mass killing as moral virtue: appealing to a transnational brotherhood in a clash of civilisations that pits one global identity (the white race) against another (Islam) in a fight to the death for survival, with no place for bystanders or fence-sitters.

The question, after Sri Lanka, is how an ostensibly weakened Isis has found itself able to respond. In a 2017-18 study of young men emerging from Isis rule in the Mosul region, my research team found that most Sunni Arabs we interviewed and tested had initially embraced Isis as “the revolution” (al-Thawra). Although many came to reject Isis’s brutality, the group had imbued them with two of its most cherished values: strict belief in sharia, and belief in a Sunni Arab homeland as opposed to a unified Iraq. Moreover, those who believe in these values expressed significantly greater willingness to fight and die than supporters of a unified Iraq. Isis may have lost its state but not necessarily the allegiance of people in the region to its core values.

In a follow-up study in 2018-19, most of those surveyed said Isis couldn’t be eliminated as a belief system or expunged physically without changing the disadvantaged religious, social and economic pre-Isis conditions under which Sunni Arabs still see themselves living. Indeed, over the past week, Isis has been able to retake Syrian territory in the mountains near Raqqa and the eastern desert; and in several Sunni areas of Iraq (Makhmour, Kirkuk, the Anbar desert) Isis bands attack government forces by day and take over villages at night at a pace similar to that seen just before the caliphate’s creation.

As the caliphate was being crushed by a coalition of powerful nations, Isis media declared the group’s intention to step up external operations. The Sri Lanka bombings show many of the features that Isis’s external operations branch, known in Arabic as Emni, developed in Europe to enlist local sympathisers, culminating with the November 2015 Paris and March 2016 Brussels attacks. In 2014, at least 21 Isis operatives were sent back from Syria into Europe to attack soft targets. All the plots except one were foiled owing to a failure to cultivate local facilitation networks. In contrast, the “success” of the Paris and Brussels attacks owes largely to Isis engaging an extensive network of overlapping and preexisting local social ties among families, friends, workmates and petty criminal bands clustered in particular neighbourhoods.

Although as yet there is no evidence that Isis-Emni directed or contracted out the bombings, there is clear indication of a strong attachment to Emni methods. The two local Islamist groups that Sri Lanka’s defence minister held responsible for the Easter bombings had hitherto mostly occupied themselves with vandalising Buddhist relics and shrines. But the Easter operation included multi-site coordination, somewhat sophisticated ordnance, suicide attacks and the targeting of Christians and foreign tourists.

Isis’s Amaq news agency published a video showing eight of the nine supposed suicide attackers pledging allegiance to Isis leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi. An earlier video on the Al-Ghuraba website showed the eight men posing under the Isis banner, and pictured Abu Mohammed al-Adnani, who directed Emni until he was killed in an American airstrike in Syria in 2016, warning about “exploding into the bastions of the infidels”. According to Sri Lanka’s prime minister, Ranil Wickremesinghe, some of the men “travelled abroad and have come back”, suggesting they may have been among the scores of Sri Lankan fighters who had returned from Syria, now minded to avenge the almost mirror-image actions of the far right that will surely be mirrored back, again and again.

The world’s postwar trend toward greater tolerance and less violence relative to the past – including democracy’s spread to a majority of the world’s nations – risks being thrown into reverse, spurred by varieties of transnational terrorism that provoke and intensify one another. Constraining these radical forces demands more than countering their violent expression. Maintaining a more tolerant, less violent world requires dealing squarely with the underlying causes of these emerging forces. Chief among these is the failure of the global market economy to sustain cultures and communities that provide identity, meaning and purpose in life even when people’s material conditions are wanting. Terrorism is one response to this failure; the rise of authoritarian regimes that give a parochial sense of community is another. The complex and onerous task of liberal societies is to make the space for a third.

• Scott Atran is an anthropologist and founding fellow of the Centre for the Resolution of Intractable Conflict at the University of Oxford

[Twosugars]

Thirty-three rightwing extremists were held under anti-terror laws last year, a steady rise which coincided with another decrease in the number of Islamist extremists detained.

The figures, released by the Home Office, compare with the 28, 10 and six people from a suspected far-right background who were detained in previous years.
The Guardian

[Twosugars]

Police have said the fastest-growing threat of terrorist violence in the UK is from the far right, with seven of the 22 plots to cause mass casualties since March 2017 being driven by extreme rightwing ideology.

They said referrals to anti-radicalisation programmes of those feared to be at risk of committing far-right terrorist acts had doubled between 2016 and 2018, and were expected to rise further.
The Guardian

[Cherie]

Can we make the point that not all right wingers are terrorists

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Can we make the point that not all right wingers are terrorists

Nobody does.
First of all rightwingers are not terrorists
Not even all of far right are, just some

Note the difference between right wing, hard right wing and far right