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Old 29-04-2019, 07:12 PM #4801
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At the end of the day, The Night King wasn't really a compelling villain, he brought the spectacle in spades but compared to Cersei, who you could write an essay on her character, he would have fallen flat if he was the main villain of the series.

I've been saying as much for years and I reckon the books won't be that much different from what we've seen regarding the White Walkers, especially if they are all linked to the NK like they were in the series.
It feels like Cersei should have been pulled into the Great War though, he betraying everyone doesn't seem to have any consequences yet.
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At the end of the day, The Night King wasn't really a compelling villain, he brought the spectacle in spades but compared to Cersei, who you could write an essay on her character, he would have fallen flat if he was the main villain of the series.

I've been saying as much for years and I reckon the books won't be that much different from what we've seen regarding the White Walkers, especially if they are all linked to the NK like they were in the series.
There’s much more back story in the books, I feel like there’ll be a lot more of an explanation, I think possibly the reason they didn’t want to put it in the show is because they’re using it for the long night spin off?
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Why did mel kill herself at the end tho
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Why did mel kill herself at the end tho
Bc her job was done, she knew that’s what the lord of light had intended for her to do
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There's still something weird going on with Bran imo, when he warged into the crows then they flew to the Night King it looked like his eyes were then all misted like warged people are?

It was a fantastic ep but the number of prominent survivors was a bit silly considering they all seemed on the verge of death every time we saw them

Am I the only one who's tv was too basic for a lot of the scenes at the start as well, made it all blotchy
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Am I the only one who's tv was too basic for a lot of the scenes at the start as well, made it all blotchy
i've got a very good 4k tv and it was still really difficult to see what was going on and who was involved in a lot of the scenes .... but that is the fog of war in a night attack .... so pretty real
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Bc her job was done, she knew that’s what the lord of light had intended for her to do
Why did she kill that scabby kid then?
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i've got a very good 4k tv and it was still really difficult to see what was going on and who was involved in a lot of the scenes .... but that is the fog of war in a night attack .... so pretty real
I didn't mind that so much but it was also a lot of the stuff at the start before the battle bad begun, the scenery just seemed really poorly defined in places
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Come on Arya you legend, told you all she was the best one I'm not well after that episode though
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Yeah, the episode was way too dark. I'd love to watch a version that has been edited to be brighter.
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I rewatched it and it was soooo much better than when I first watched it this morning. Probably because I was not still half asleep and I could actually fully see what was going on lol


But no, seriously. FUCK. The cinematography, the music, the silence I did say how I was disappointed with the low body count in terms of main characters, but now I'm okay with it. Arya truly was the star, along with Theon who single-handedly saved Bran, and Beric.

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What was the point in the walkers though?? Like, they literally did nothing apart from looking cool when walking into Winterfell. It would've been really good to see them come face-to-face with some of our heroes.
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I found it a bit underwhelming and did it need to be so dark
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Did it even get explaining what bran was warging into bc i swear it was just a pigeon or somn
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A raven, to get the NKs attention and bring him to where he was IIRC
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https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a...aintwitterpost

Don’t normally like DS articles bc they’re written by 12 year olds but this hits the nail on the head for me
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A raven, to get the NKs attention and bring him to where he was IIRC
But then he was still warging long after the NK was off of Viserion
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Best tweet I saw:

No one can kill the night king.
No one did.
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What was the point in the walkers though?? Like, they literally did nothing apart from looking cool when walking into Winterfell. It would've been really good to see them come face-to-face with some of our heroes.
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just putting it out there as I haven't seen it mentioned ..... what role is there left for Bran ..... could he become the new NK? Something isn't quite right there
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I love the whole arc of Theon Greyjoy, from the arrogant ward we met into the first episode to the brave Theon who went toe to toe with the Night King
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Because Sue got the Thronecast gig.
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But then he was still warging long after the NK was off of Viserion
that was him getting fragments of what was happening in the battle and probably how far away Arya was from getting there. Hence his little time filler with Theon telling him he was a good man. He knew that little chat would give Arya the time she needed to stick it to the NK
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Yeah I can see where that's coming from, I read a similar article here: https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/...es-long-night/

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What is this show now? Winter is… over. Before a few weeks ago, one wondered how they could possibly wrap it all up in only six episodes, since so much had yet to be revealed about the Night King and the Gods and the entire Bran-plot. Now, I find myself wondering what they’re even going to do for three more. Euron is a clown and Cersei is doomed to be killed by one of her brothers or something; when she was in the middle of a sea of difficult familial politics, she was interesting; now she isn’t and she isn’t, just a one-note villain. And who else is there in this show? It’s conceivable that they’ll make the drama all about people trying to decide what to do now that they’ve saved the world and the stakes have gotten small again; I suppose we could see Tyrion and Jaime have divided loyalties again, and maybe Jon and Sansa and Arya will break with Daenerys, whose army is mostly kaput anyway. Grey Worm and Missandei can go off and explore non-phallic eroticism and Gendry can leave 17 unanswered voicemails for Arya. Presumably we’ll get Clegane-bowl after all, and Tormund and Brienne will figure out if they’re a thing, and maybe Varys will matter again. Sam will return his library books.

Is any of that compelling? Can it be, now? We’ve spent entire seasons watching Jon convince everyone that nothing else matters but the war with death; now that there is no war with death, are we supposed to pretend that all that other stuff matters again? Having been reassured for seven seasons — eight years — that the battle with the Night King would elevate all this other stuff into something more interesting, are we going to go back to acting like the “Game of Thrones” is the key thing?
I feel like there must still be more to come on it though, after all the different theories etc it all feels a bit too simple and neatly tied up
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