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Old 03-05-2019, 11:21 AM #1
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Thumbs up Pensioner who killed drugged up perp who broke into his house CLEARED

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A burglar who was stabbed to death by an elderly homeowner was lawfully killed, a coroner has ruled.

Richard Osborn-Brooks warned burglar Henry Vincent his own knife was "bigger than yours" after the intruder and an accomplice clad in balaclavas burst into his home on April 4 last year.

The 79-year-old pensioner said Vincent "ran into" the blade during a raid at his property in Hither Green, south-east London, Southwark Coroner's Court heard.

The burglar, who had heroin and cocaine in his system, was armed with a screwdriver, but Mr Osborn-Brooks grabbed the largest kitchen knife from a six-knife holder.

Vincent's accomplice fled through the front door, but the 39-year-old went towards the pensioner with the screwdriver.






He said: "Get out of my way or I'll stick you with this."

According to a police statement, Mr Osborn-Brooks, said: "You said 'I think you're wrong because mine's bigger than yours and if you don't leave my house you will be sorry'.

"I was just showing him that the knife I had was actually bigger than the screwdriver. So if he was to lunge at me he would hit my knife rather than hit me first."

Vincent's chest was pierced with a 12-inch kitchen knife by Mr Osborn-Brooks - the cause of death was an incised wound to the chest.

Senior coroner Andrew Harris recorded a verdict of lawful killing on Thursday.


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He said: "In considering the force it would seem that given there is two intruders at night, one with a weapon, the use of moderate force would seem to me to reasonably be proportionate.

"It seems to me the combination of unpredictability and fear were factors that have to be taken into account considering the proportionality of the force that was used."

Mr Osborn-Brooks gave evidence via video-link and said the two men pushed him inside as he went to answer the door, during the early hours of April 4.

The homeowner had told Vincent "get out of my house you bastard or it will be the worse for you" as he attempted to protect his elderly wife Maureen, the inquest heard.

He said: "I thought he would look at my knife and see it is bigger than his implement and he would take the opportunity to run out the front door, which was open.

"My intention was to get him out of the house and away from my wife.

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Agree with this verdict, you have to be able to defend yourself in your own home or all is lost
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Yes Good he Stayed still with his Massive Knife
killing that Junkie Criminal Dead

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I would do the same

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It's the right verdict given what happened but it's unfortunate that it went down that way, and I'm not going to start celebrating the death of a burglar because I'm not a bloodthirsty sociopath.
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It's the right verdict given what happened but it's unfortunate that it went down that way, and I'm not going to start celebrating the death of a burglar because I'm not a bloodthirsty sociopath.
Not celebrate just glad he died as he was a worthless criminal and a blight on the local community
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It's the right verdict given what happened but it's unfortunate that it went down that way, and I'm not going to start celebrating the death of a burglar because I'm not a bloodthirsty sociopath.

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Not celebrate just glad he died as he was a worthless criminal and a blight on the local community

Yes be was a Blight
that was not worthy of Life



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people think a gold club will stop an intruder but in the heat of battle it would bounce off an adult if if could even swing it. The probem with a knife is you can stab someone good but it takes a time to kill, even if you get the chest and in that time it could be used on you. A gun would be ideal as it stops the person dead if you get the core
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people think a gold club will stop an intruder but in the heat of battle it would bounce off an adult if if could even swing it. The probem with a knife is you can stab someone good but it takes a time to kill, even if you get the chest and in that time it could be used on you. A gun would be ideal as it stops the person dead if you get the core
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By the sounds of it the homeowner has been given a prison sentence in a way - he has had to move from his house of 40 years, away from family and friends etc due to the possibility of recriminations from the burglar's family.

Its a sad story all round - a man has lost his life, another has lost the freedom to live where he wants because someone chose to burgle his house.

The verdict in the case is the correct one, but I'm with TS in that its not something to celebrate (not that I think anyone is particularly in this thread).
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Yes you really need to be able to protect yourself and your home without repercussions imo but as Annie said, I don't think that poor man "got off" either with the harassment he got afterwards. Those people should be ashamed of themselves, the apple didn't fall too far from the tree it seems
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Cleared? It shouldn't even have gotten that far. And the criminal's family shouldn't have been told where it happened or who did it, as it endangers the old man.
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Cleared? It shouldn't even have gotten that far. And the criminal's family shouldn't have been told where it happened or who did it, as it endangers the old man.
IIRC there was another burglar present so it wouldn't be possible to keep that information classified.
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IIRC there was another burglar present so it wouldn't be possible to keep that information classified.
yes and that coward ran like a dog, the only reason the other perp stayed was he was coked up
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