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Did nobody spot the immense irony. "You can't voice your opinions here, we are inclusive"
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I wonder what bryan did to be on the teachers mind.
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But there is only 2 genders? We are taught that at school in science lessons. Your either born a male or born a female its up to people if they change sex but still it's two genders?!
Exactly! There's always just been 2 genders . But now we must go against biology & science just because some people don't want to identify as male or female .

I honesty think this whole non binary thing has gone too far ,and this teacher is an Idiot desperate to please the "latest trend" . it's the bandwagon of extreme eggshell culture scared to offend !.

I can't even call it PC gone mad because it's nonsensical the whole thing
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Without proper context, the video has little worth.

I generally believe there are two genders, if someone who is born a male comes to the conclusion that they are a female then I'll simply consider them as such when they transition and vice versa. I'll always refer to people by their preferred pronouns though since that's basic decency.

When it comes to gender neutrality, I believe the idea of it being it's own gender goes against the point of being gender neutral. If you are gender neutral then you are simply choosing to ignore gender norms in society and all the more power to you for doing so.
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Without proper context, the video has little worth.

I generally believe there are two genders, if someone who is born a male comes to the conclusion that they are a female then I'll simply consider them as such when they transition and vice versa. I'll always refer to people by their preferred pronouns though since that's basic decency.

When it comes to gender neutrality, I believe the idea of it being it's own gender goes against the point of being gender neutral. If you are gender neutral then you are simply choosing to ignore gender norms in society and all the more power to you for doing so.
Yes exactly, this is a one of my biggest problems with it, that we (especially as a woman) have spent such a long time, looking to be treated equally and to break down stereotypes only for them seemingly be back up and running and forced upon us again
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Without proper context, the video has little worth.

I generally believe there are two genders, if someone who is born a male comes to the conclusion that they are a female then I'll simply consider them as such when they transition and vice versa. I'll always refer to people by their preferred pronouns though since that's basic decency.

When it comes to gender neutrality, I believe the idea of it being it's own gender goes against the point of being gender neutral. If you are gender neutral then you are simply choosing to ignore gender norms in society and all the more power to you for doing so.
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There is actually one gender - our lord and saviour, Jesus Christ.
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on a separate issue, I think filming without someones consent as in this case should be crime
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on a separate issue, I think filming without someones consent as in this case should be crime
Yeah me too. Is this in a school or university btw? In my kids school, a phone would be taken off them if they tried to do that, phones have to be kept in their lockers
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on a separate issue, I think filming without someones consent as in this case should be crime
yes that aspect is entirely unacceptable
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Yeah me too. Is this in a school or university btw? In my kids school, a phone would be taken off them if they tried to do that, phones have to be kept in their lockers
I would say a secondary school, I don't think you would be kicked out of a lecture in Uni... I am surprised he had a phone, they are generally not allowed in the classroom, but then this is Scotland a law unto itself
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I would say a secondary school, I don't think you would be kicked out of a lecture in Uni... I am surprised he had a phone, they are generally not allowed in the classroom, but then this is Scotland a law unto itself
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Scottish HS and you can have as many phones as you want in class


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I think the teacher handled himself really well. Fair play to him. What a disrespectful young man that kid was.
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It's not illegal to record a conversation between individuals in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. That would generally apply to a school, or even a workplace, although obviously workplaces can have separate clauses in the contract of employment regarding privacy and confidentiality (but it still wouldn't be illegal, just gross misconduct).

You can't record someone in a place where privacy is expected (like a toilet or changing area) and you can't record someone in their home. You might face civil consequences (get sued) if what you record and share with the public puts someone's reputation at risk.

Tl;Dr don't say anything controversial in a conversation with anyone unless you're happy with the risk of it being recorded and shared because no, it's not illegal to do so.
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It's not illegal to record a conversation between individuals in a public place where there is no expectation of privacy. That would generally apply to a school, or even a workplace, although obviously workplaces can have separate clauses in the contract of employment regarding privacy and confidentiality (but it still wouldn't be illegal, just gross misconduct).

You can't record someone in a place where privacy is expected (like a toilet or changing area) and you can't record someone in their home. You might face civil consequences (get sued) if what you record and share with the public puts someone's reputation at risk.

Tl;Dr don't say anything controversial in a conversation with anyone unless you're happy with the risk of it being recorded and shared because no, it's not illegal to do so.

it should be though, I mean I cant share or hold someones email without their consent but I can film them, upload it online and make their lives a misery, there is something wrong with that
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it should be though, I mean I cant share or hold someones email without their consent but I can film them, upload it online and make their lives a misery, there is something wrong with that
You can personally do what you want with someone's email address as an individual, if it was given to you AS an individual. GDPR regs / freedom of information requests etc. only apply to business and official use (whether that's a sole trader, a big company or a government) not personal individuals. For example if we ask James to provide us copies of anything that Niamh and Vicky has said about us in Tibb towers he legally has to do that... But if Niamh and Vicky want to know what's been said about them by us privately off-site they're outta luck; we can just say no.
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In my day that teacher would have been thumped.
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You can personally do what you want with someone's email address as an individual, if it was given to you AS an individual. GDPR regs / freedom of information requests etc. only apply to business and official use (whether that's a sole trader, a big company or a government) not personal individuals. For example if we ask James to provide us copies of anything that Niamh and Vicky has said about us in Tibb towers he legally has to do that... But if Niamh and Vicky want to know what's been said about them by us privately off-site they're outta luck; we can just say no.
I meant at work....I cant share, and that teacher was at work so....
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You can personally do what you want with someone's email address as an individual, if it was given to you AS an individual. GDPR regs / freedom of information requests etc. only apply to business and official use (whether that's a sole trader, a big company or a government) not personal individuals. For example if we ask James to provide us copies of anything that Niamh and Vicky has said about us in Tibb towers he legally has to do that... But if Niamh and Vicky want to know what's been said about them by us privately off-site they're outta luck; we can just say no.
James would only need to release that sort information if requested by authorities or a legal representative, it's not public.

Just for example, ex bb housemates sometimes send emails asking for threads to be removed from the forum, we only have to legally do that if the request comes from thier lawyers unless it contains information that can identify them such as addresses etc.

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The teacher was thick and couldn’t hold an argument. But the boy was wrong and arrogant and shouldn’t be in the class.
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XX and XY

That is all.
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XX and XY

That is all.
Only if you don't know what the word means, and mistakenly think it means the same thing as "sex". Gender has nothing to do with chromosomes. That's not a "woke statement" or "being PC" or anything of the sort; it's a simple statement of the historical origin and usage of the word.

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Gender is not a biological term. It never has been, and never will be, no matter how hard people wish it was.
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Murray has the truth on his side.

Murray is a brave legend, to challenge the authoritarian Marxists.

I name him 'Braveheart'
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