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Old 23-06-2019, 11:19 AM #201
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When Nigel Farage had a milkshake thrown at him...there was no blood drawn,,but the judge still found it was assualt (I agree)
She has the right to press charges too.
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She has the right to press charges too.
But she choose not to.He apolagised and promised to attend anger management.


fair play to her for not taking this though the criminal courts
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But she choose not to.He apolagised and promised to attend anger management.


fair play to her for not taking this though the criminal courts
She has class
Unlike farage
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Yes The Judge got that right.
So you class a thrown milkshake as assault, but not someone using physical, aggressive force?
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So you class a thrown milkshake as assault, but not someone using physical, aggressive force?
Two totally different incidents...one was an unprovoked attack, the other was something else.
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Not Cherie lecturing others about sarky comments
Kazanne is also happy to make fun of posts she disagrees with.
Joey your posts are always interesting and well reasoned, dont let anybody silence you
hey whatsyourface, not sure Joey will appreciate your interfering in his business
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Two totally different incidents...one was an unprovoked attack, the other was something else.
They were both unprovoked.
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the other was something else.
Yes the other was an aggressive bloke who had probably swiped a glass too many at the champagne reception grabbing a peaceful protester by the throat because he felt like she was being a bit rude interrupting his evening.
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Two totally different incidents...one was an unprovoked attack, the other was something else.

really?induldge me .What was the "something else"
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...Kaz and Joey.....I know you have always had a great friendship and huge respect for each other..I hope that continues for you both.....
It will and can for me Ammi.
Friends can really intensely disagree on one thing but the bond stays solid.
I have many political and law related arguments with many friends.

Then fully socialise with them too.

I don't break friendships either in real life or on paper.
I will never seek it or want that with said individual.

What isn't needed however, (whoever or how many it may be), are the meddling, only self appointed thinking they are mods, as interfering and unwelcome others.

As a further thought,
I agree with all you say on this thread too.
It is worrying if this was the norm, what kind of society we'd then have.
Very dismaying.

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They were both unprovoked.
Breaking into a room full of top politicians is closer to provocation than walking down a street.
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hey whatsyourface, not sure Joey will appreciate your interfering in his business
He sure doesn't appreciate yours. So take your own advice
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I think Cherie makes some fair points. There's been a lot of flogging of the same horse on here with the milkshake comparisons and the 'if it was a Labour MP..' posts and there are certainly undertones of insults in some posts accusing members of basically being hypocrites and spiteful is not very helpful

Its just another example of how polarised we seem to be atm and respecting opposing view points seems to have gone out the window
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He sure doesn't appreciate yours. So take your own advice
I don't need to I don't mind people getting involved with what I post on the forum if they see the need.
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I think Cherie makes some fair points. There's been a lot of flogging of the same horse on here with the milkshake comparisons and the 'if it was a Labour MP..' posts and there are certainly undertones of insults in some posts accusing members of basically being hypocrites and spiteful is not very helpful

Its just another example of how polarised we seem to be atm and respecting opposing view points seems to have gone out the window
Thank you, and completely agree with your last point
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I don't need to I don't mind people getting involved with what I post on the forum if they see the need.
So you won't mind me saying you should butt out of political disagreements between friends
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So you won't mind me saying you should butt out of political disagreements between friends
I don't mind you saying that at all, but I won't be changing how I post
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Breaking into a room full of top politicians is closer to provocation than walking down a street.

You do of course know how protests work?


Be it Apartheid in my case ...breaking into a room of top politicicans is how it works..

You could of course put the protesters in a field in the middle of nowhere....but what would be the point of that protest?.


sad to see in 2019 the young see protest as provocation
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I wasn't holding my breath
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I think Cherie makes some fair points. There's been a lot of flogging of the same horse on here with the milkshake comparisons and the 'if it was a Labour MP..' posts and there are certainly undertones of insults in some posts accusing members of basically being hypocrites and spiteful is not very helpful

Its just another example of how polarised we seem to be atm and respecting opposing view points seems to have gone out the window
Actually I think everyone has made fair comments not just one person.

Unless you're saying her comments attacking me are the fairer ones rather than her general comments.
Since I used the word spiteful in a post it's clear where your possible leaning is in your post in that then.

I can tell you, as a strong Labour supporter on here. I have had shocking statements made as to myself personally and Labour members of wich I am one.
I don't recall you jumping in against that before.


No matter who may have done this, Conservative or Labour MP or Mickey Mouse with this woman.
To me it's indefensible.
Worrying for society and overall too.

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So you class a thrown milkshake as assault, but not someone using physical, aggressive force?
Throwing a milkshake is assault in the eyes of the law. There is no doubt about that.

The man who used force to stop the protestor had no way of knowing what she was going to do. Security should have been all over the place and they weren't, and she was making her way to the top table. You can't just say, but she's a middle class white woman in an evening dress.... she's not a threat. I imagine there might well have been some security sackings and so should there be. If security had been on the ball she might have ended up face down on the floor with plasticuffs on.
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Throwing a milkshake is assault in the eyes of the law. There is no doubt about that.

The man who used force to stop the protestor had no way of knowing what she was going to do. Security should have been all over the place and they weren't, and she was making her way to the top table. You can't just say, but she's a middle class white woman in an evening dress.... she's not a threat. I imagine there might well have been some security sackings and so should there be. If security had been on the ball she might have ended up face down on the floor with plasticuffs on.
But Livia.She was no physical threat to anyone...The fact that he ..and nobody else thought so is on him.Perception is not a cause for assault..I Know you are a lawyer and I am not.She broke the law ..Do I think she should have ended up "Face down on the floor".NO


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Throwing a milkshake is assault in the eyes of the law. There is no doubt about that.

The man who used force to stop the protestor had no way of knowing what she was going to do. Security should have been all over the place and they weren't, and she was making her way to the top table. You can't just say, but she's a middle class white woman in an evening dress.... she's not a threat. I imagine there might well have been some security sackings and so should there be. If security had been on the ball she might have ended up face down on the floor with plasticuffs on.
Have you even watched the video, Livia? You can't say it was self defense or he feared she was dangerous judging by how he acted. That's just a bull**** excuse peddled by him to try and worm his way out of trouble.

Anybody that is offended by a milkshake being thrown CANNOT explain away Mark Field manhandling a person without being a massive hypocrite, you just can't.

You can't choose when to be morally outraged when it suits, anyone who acted like Farage getting a milkshake thrown over him as an attempt on his life can't pick and choose not to take offense at this incident. That is the price to pay when you choose to use moral outrage to try to undermine someone, you have got to live and die by it, you can't pick and choose.
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