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Marsh. · 12-07-2019, 04:44 PM

Yeah, it's strange. There's a law against shops advertising the machine games in the windows/outside yet the TV is full of those online gaming/bingo adverts.

Toy Soldier · 12-07-2019, 06:18 PM

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Gambling is such a dangerous addicition as unlike other addictions, alcohol, drugs etc it has no outward symptoms. I have heard of really wealthy professional types literally going bankrupt or turning to fraud to fund it and no-one, even those closest to them were aware they even had a problem. Its frightening really.

I don't think mobile type app adverts should be allowed on TV either.

Yeah, it's the "no hangover". All of the symptoms are there when problem gamblers are actively gambling - the adrenaline shakes, the agitation, some literally sweat profusely, they get angry, some can lash out etc. but as soon as the session is over they can put their game face back on and walk away looking outwardly no different to how they did when they walked in.

Some other addictions can be similarly "silent" at first , like prescription pills and even early stage "functional" alcoholism, but those will eventually start to show physically as they progress. A problem gambler can be at absolute rock bottom (I've seen people lose houses and businesses) and still have no physical sign of the problem.

Toy Soldier · 12-07-2019, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, it's strange. There's a law against shops advertising the machine games in the windows/outside yet the TV is full of those online gaming/bingo adverts.

That's relatively new as well though, windows used to be full of games posters.

michael21 · 15-07-2019, 09:27 PM

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That's relatively new as well though, windows used to be full of games posters.

Some window will have close in them

parmnion · 15-07-2019, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah, it's strange. There's a law against shops advertising the machine games in the windows/outside yet the TV is full of those online gaming/bingo adverts.

They still do free to enter tournaments on slot machines in my local William hills to win a twenty pound voucher.

Marsh. · 15-07-2019, 10:01 PM

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They still do free to enter tournaments on slot machines in my local William hills to win a twenty pound voucher.

They will do. They just can't advertise that outside of the shop to pull people in.

Toy Soldier · 16-07-2019, 08:03 AM

It is just another example of bare minimum compliance though. "We don't put posters in the window even though no one ever looks at those posters anyway, socially responsible r we innit"...

... Then giving (practically forcing) over the counter customers who have never even glanced at the machines a free go to get them hooked.

Still doing the bare minimum for industry compliance while completely unsubtly pushing the opposite on the down low. Repeatedly hammering the self destruct button to be honest. If actual social responsibility had been observed from the offset they probably wouldn't be facing as much backlash.

Livia · 16-07-2019, 09:30 AM

Very interesting to see your take on this, TS.

My paternal grandfather was a gambler, no one else in the family ever gambled, I wonder if it has something to do with what my grandfather lost and how horrible it was for my grandmother. It's a horrible addiction. And now it's everywhere! Bingo, slot game ads, roulette on late night telly... I'm sure most people gamble responsibly, but I understand it's affecting kids under 18 now.

michael21 · 16-07-2019, 10:12 PM

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Very interesting to see your take on this, TS.

My paternal grandfather was a gambler, no one else in the family ever gambled, I wonder if it has something to do with what my grandfather lost and how horrible it was for my grandmother. It's a horrible addiction. And now it's everywhere! Bingo, slot game ads, roulette on late night telly... I'm sure most people gamble responsibly, but I understand it's affecting kids under 18 now.

How many kids do you know over 18

As for kids gambling where are there getting the money from

Toy Soldier · 16-07-2019, 11:48 PM

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How many kids do you know over 18

As for kids gambling where are there getting the money from

When you're old and withered like me and Livia, you realise that most people under about 25 (sometimes older) are really still just kids.

Livia · 17-07-2019, 10:43 AM

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When you're old and withered like me and Livia, you realise that most people under about 25 (sometimes older) are really still just kids.

Oi! you cheeky bugger....

michael21 · 17-07-2019, 09:19 PM

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When you're old and withered like me and Livia, you realise that most people under about 25 (sometimes older) are really still just kids.

Fair point

Toy Soldier · 17-07-2019, 09:22 PM

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Fair point

Are you calling Livia an old lady?

michael21 · 17-07-2019, 09:23 PM

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Are you calling Livia an old lady?

No

michael21 · 17-07-2019, 09:25 PM

Some more news

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ladbr...7h1a11ibt0Gy1D

https://www.racingpost.com/news/ladb...obt-cut/390705

Toy Soldier · 17-07-2019, 09:38 PM

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Some more news

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ladbr...7h1a11ibt0Gy1D

https://www.racingpost.com/news/ladb...obt-cut/390705

Reading between the lines it's exactly as thought: the drop in FOBT revenue has been covered almost completely by the corresponding increase in Sports Betting Terminals, Over The Counter and Online. Casual players have moved to their smartphones, heavy betters have moved to sports and greyhounds. The crackdown is a complete waste of time until they make them across the board and heavily restrict slots and casino games online.

michael21 · 17-07-2019, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Reading between the lines it's exactly as thought: the drop in FOBT revenue has been covered almost completely by the corresponding increase in Sports Betting Terminals, Over The Counter and Online. Casual players have moved to their smartphones, heavy betters have moved to sports and greyhounds. The crackdown is a complete waste of time until they make them across the board and heavily restrict slots and casino games online.

Online crackdown wont happen the government make to much money from tax

Toy Soldier · 17-07-2019, 11:11 PM

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Online crackdown wont happen the government make to much money from tax

That's what they said about FOBT's, and they were taxed higher than online.

Vicky. · 18-07-2019, 11:17 AM

Have not deposited on one of my sites for ages as trying to be sensible (Esp as have over a grand in my bank right now which I could blow through in hours if 'in the mood') so..oddly enough..

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They have stuck 80 quid in my account, to try and set off my gambling side that I find very hard to switch off once its on :S

BUT, I feel daft just leaving a free 80 quid there too, just incase.

Also I know deep down that even if I won something, the 'exclusion' excuse would come out immediately

michael21 · 18-07-2019, 04:31 PM

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Have not deposited on one of my sites for ages as trying to be sensible (Esp as have over a grand in my bank right now which I could blow through in hours if 'in the mood') so..oddly enough..

They have stuck 80 quid in my account, to try and set off my gambling side that I find very hard to switch off once its on :S

BUT, I feel daft just leaving a free 80 quid there too, just incase.

Also I know deep down that even if I won something, the 'exclusion' excuse would come out immediately

You need to block all email from gaming sites forget about any bouses as even if you win there wont pay out please don't fall for there trap Vicky