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Old 16-07-2019, 08:18 PM #1
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Anti-terrorism police in northern Italy have seized an air-to-air missile and other sophisticated weapons during raids on far-right extremist groups.

Three people were arrested, two of them near Forli airport. Neo-Nazi propaganda was also seized.

The raids were part of an investigation into Italian far-right involvement in the conflict in eastern Ukraine, the Turin police said.

The missile originated from the Qatari armed forces, the police said.

The Turin special police force, called Digos, led the operations, assisted by police in Milan, Varese, Forli and Novara.

Italian media named those arrested as Fabio Del Bergiolo, 50, an Italian ex-customs officer and far-right Forza Nuova party activist; Alessandro Monti, 42, a Swiss national; and Fabio Bernardi, 51, also Italian.

Initially, on 15 July, the police said the arrests were part of an investigation, started about a year ago, into far-right groups "who have fought in Ukraine's Donbass region against the separatists".

But the latest police statement did not mention groups fighting the pro-Russian separatists, referring only to an investigation into Italian extremists who had "taken part in the armed conflict in Ukraine's Donbass region". The police did not make it clear which side the Italians were on in this case.

The missile appears to be a French-made Matra Super 530 F.

"During the operation, an air-to-air missile in perfect working order and used by the Qatari army was seized," police said in a statement.

Separately, a court in Genoa jailed three men on 3 July who were found guilty of fighting alongside the Russian-backed separatists, who control a large swathe of Ukraine's Donetsk and Luhansk regions.

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The real threat is definately those lefties and their milkshakes though
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Nazis having missiles in 2019 is utterly terrifying
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Morons would be pointing it up in the sky when they are all on boats.
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Where is the media frenzy around the rise of the far right?....
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Where is the media frenzy around the rise of the far right?....
There won’t be one, because milkshakes and socialism are the things really threatening the country!
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Where is the media frenzy around the rise of the far right?....
Stuck in 1980 something...

The far right is well under control in the UK. .the left is beginning to run as wild as the anti jew right was back then.

Be carefull you don't pick up any left over tags cause you were around in 2019 if you reach 2050

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There won’t be one, because milkshakes and socialism are the things really threatening the country!
So tommy robinson launches a milkshake at a radical muslim preacher violently enough to cut him because he disagrees with him and his views....wouldn't make the news?
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Stuck in 1980 something...

The far right is well under control in the UK. .the left is beginning to run as wild as the anti jew right was back then.

Be carefull you don't pick up any left over tags cause you were around in 2019 if you reach 2050
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Where is the media frenzy around the rise of the far right?....
It's easier to get clicks and sell papers when you tell white people that brown people are the enemy but they get unconfortable when faced with the reality that the biggest terrorist threat to us at the moment comes from the extreme right, not evil muslims but white people with extreme versions of popular viewpoints and people don't buy into media that paints a portrait of an enemy that reminds them of themselves.
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Stuck in 1980 something...

The far right is well under control in the UK. .the left is beginning to run as wild as the anti jew right was back then.

Be carefull you don't pick up any left over tags cause you were around in 2019 if you reach 2050
Tell that to Jo Cox

Hell, let's make this international and tell that to the victims of attacks on abortion clinics in the US or the victim of the Charlottesville killer. Tell it to the people who would have been killed by the weapons seized in the story above.

Right Wing extremism is a growing threat and you should be shining a light on it, denouncing it, not protecting the extreme elements because you don't want to admit your political allignment has a dark side you should want to excise, not deny it exists.
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Nazis having missiles in 2019 is utterly terrifying


If they ever got
to use them , though.


In London Bridge 2017
3 Evil Muslims killed 8
and wounded 48 with knives tapped to their arms
Well done the Police Who Shot Dead all three
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49007472

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In London Bridge 2017
3 Evil Muslims killed 8
and wounded 48 with knives tapped to their arms
Well done the Police Who Shot Dead all three
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49007472
They were Muslim far right
Their aims are not much different: supremacy, hatred and division
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Tell that to Jo Cox

Hell, let's make this international and tell that to the victims of attacks on abortion clinics in the US or the victim of the Charlottesville killer. Tell it to the people who would have been killed by the weapons seized in the story above.

Right Wing extremism is a growing threat and you should be shining a light on it, denouncing it, not protecting the extreme elements because you don't want to admit your political allignment has a dark side you should want to excise, not deny it exists.


Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.
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...thank the Lord they were seized and never used.../...well done to the Italian securities and police force.....
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On what basis are you implying Dezzy is antisemitic? How can you do that to a member who posted many times condemning antisemitism?

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Peace on Earth ain’t happening anytime soon.
Well done to the Italian security.
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On what basis are you implying Dezzy is antisemitic? How can you do that to a member who posted many times condemning antisemitism?
Same basis he is using to imply what I'm all about..where the outrage at that?
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Except nobody has suggested there's nothing to be addressed by Labour, yet you are clearly denying that there is an expanding far right issue regardless of very clear evidence there is.
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Left wing extremism is the only thing I see on the rise in my country. But you don't want to admit that because you have a dark side regarding your political allignement regarding Jews.
The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK. Only likeminded people could ever agree with them. This episode happened in Italy... maybe that's why the media in this country isn't covering it... Italy probably doesn't cover much stuff from the Right or the Left in the UK.

I thought the glib "the Left and their milkshakes" in the OP wasn't called for. How about daubing swastikas on synagogues, or smashing Jewish gravestones? Because the Left is endorsing that behaviour by their reluctance to deal with anti-Semitism.
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The Far Right are figures of fun in the UK. Only likeminded people could ever agree with them. This episode happened in Italy... maybe that's why the media in this country isn't covering it... Italy probably doesn't cover much stuff from the Right or the Left in the UK.

I thought the glib "the Left and their milkshakes" in the OP wasn't called for. How about daubing swastikas on synagogues, or smashing Jewish gravestones? Because the Left is endorsing that behaviour by their reluctance to deal with anti-Semitism.
Your ability to create false narratives is actually quite impressive at this point
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Your ability to create false narratives is actually quite impressive at this point
Jeremy Corbyn and his party have not dealt with anti-Semitism. Consequently they're being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. This is not my narrative.
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Jeremy Corbyn and his party have not dealt with anti-Semitism. Consequently they're being investigated by the Equality and Human Rights Commission. This is not my narrative.
No, your narrative is that the left endorse and condone antisemitism when it’s strictly not true in the slightest.
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I've actually said early on in that anti-semitic thread that I think those elements and the people who enforce them should be excised from Labour, I believe I might have used something akin to the phrase of 'cut out the rot'?

That's the difference between me and you, I acknowledge issues and condemn them if I oppose them regardless of politics, you only condemn such things if they come from the opposition but never from your own side.

So yeah, nice try but an utter fail. Whataboutism is not going to work here. Right wing extremism is a growing threat and by continuing to pretend it doesn't exist, the right are only letting it thrive. Acknowledge the rot and excise it, don't blame the opposing side for it. That does nothing.

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I've actually said early on in that anti-semitic thread that I think those elements and the people who enforce them should be excised from Labour, I believe I might have used something akin to the phrase of 'cut out the rot'?

That's the difference between me and you, I acknowledge issues and condemn them if I oppose them regardless of politics, you only condemn such things if they come from the opposition but never from your own side.

So yeah, nice try but an utter fail. Whataboutism is not going to work here. Right wing extremism is a growing threat and by continuing to pretend it doesn't exist, the right are only letting it thrive. Acknowledge the rot and excise it, don't blame the opposing side for it. That does nothing.


Ive condemned plenty, you just fail to see it cause it gives you nothing to leap about with your pearls as though someone had shat under your nose with

..the side I sit on is not the right...nor indeed the left....so I'm sorry but even if you think it...it's really not an issue that interests me...we all know tommy robinson is a cock...we all know trump is a cock...we all know boris is a cock..we all know Jeremy is a cock....we all know there are right wing fascists..we all know there are left wing fascists.....but because you think I have fascist or racist views you aotomatically assume I sit on the right.....


Assume away...

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