[lime]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I heard on the news that several police vans were seen at a travellers site tonight,not sure if there is any connection but it was on our local news.

The moment I heard the age range ..I knew it was travellers..Sick and tired of them saying Its their culture.The original Travelers would be disguusted at modern day Travelers.I am not a Catholic but I have been to communion ..confirmations...and the nomadic are smoking in church and kicking my chair because my accent is different..As a South African /Irish woman I think the new version of Travellers are the most racist people I have ever crossed

[Ammi]

...It’s so heartbreaking to look at his wedding images with his beautiful bride..such a short time ago, everything in their lives was before them...and now her world and the world of his family has been sadly and sickeningly crushed in such a brutal way......

[arista]

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by lime

The moment I heard the age range ..I knew it was travellers..Sick and tired of them saying Its their culture.The original Travelers would be disguusted at modern day Travelers.I am not a Catholic but I have been to communion ..confirmations...and the nomadic are smoking in church and kicking my chair because my accent is different..As a South African /Irish woman I think the new version of Travellers are the most racist people I have ever crossed

It's terrible lime,it does seem they were arrested from a travelling site and awful that you have had to endure that.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by lime

The moment I heard the age range ..I knew it was travellers..Sick and tired of them saying Its their culture.The original Travelers would be disguusted at modern day Travelers.I am not a Catholic but I have been to communion ..confirmations...and the nomadic are smoking in church and kicking my chair because my accent is different..As a South African /Irish woman I think the new version of Travellers are the most racist people I have ever crossed

I felt the same as soon as I heard the number involved and age range, that said nothing has been confirmed as yet, sorry to hear of your experience Lime

[Nicky91]

sad for this one policeman, even more sad he got killed right before his honeymoon


but i'm not a big fan of the police in general myself, i mean the whole crushing people to death while there are other ways to arrest someone, for example stun em with tasers

[thesheriff443]

Just to add to this, he was also hit by a police car attending the scene.

[Ammi]

A man has been charged with murdering 28-year-old PC Andrew Harper, who was killed while investigating a burglary.
The Thames Valley Police officer died on Thursday in Sulhamstead, Berkshire, after being dragged along the road by a vehicle.
PC Foster's wife, Lissie, paid tribute to the "kindest, loveliest, most selfless person you will ever meet".
Jed Foster, 20, of Reading, has been charged with his murder and the theft of a quad bike.
Mr Foster will appear at Reading Magistrates' Court on Tuesday morning.
Nine other people who were arrested at the same time as Mr Foster have been released on bail until 13 September.
PC Harper's wife Lissie, who he married four weeks ago, said he "genuinely cared for everyone".
"I want to be angry that your job took you away from us but I know you loved it and always wanted to keep everyone safe, especially me," she said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-49402226

[Denver]

The man charged has denied having anything to do with it

[Denver]

The boy who did it looks so young but the youth of today are film of evil

[Denver]

One thing I dont understand is why 9 where let out on bail? Surely that makes them a high risk for runaway especially being from the travelling community they will move them elsewhere

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

The boy who did it looks so young but the youth of today are film of evil

same as certain police officers, who also are evil

not every police officer of course

but my point is, some youth are evil, but not every youth is evil

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

One thing I dont understand is why 9 where let out on bail? Surely that makes them a high risk for runaway especially being from the travelling community they will move them elsewhere

Maybe, just maybe they can't pin anything on them and they are innocent?

[thesheriff443]

It’s a 20 year old that has been charged not a 13 year old, as usual you you are not getting the full facts.

He was hanging on to a vehicle was throw off and then run over by apolice car!!!

You can only charge someone with murder if you prove they ran over the police n purpose.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

It’s a 20 year old that has been charged not a 13 year old, as usual you you are not getting the full facts.

He was hanging on to a vehicle was throw off and then run over by apolice car!!!

You can only charge someone with murder if you prove they ran over the police n purpose.

...yeah it does sound like it’s a complicated case, sheriff...and I guess that’s why the holding and questioning of so many people also...

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...yeah it does sound like it’s a complicated case, sheriff...and I guess that’s why the holding and questioning of so many people also...

Well nine have been released on bail after being questioned for the maximum amount of time allowed.

It could be that him getting hit by his own police forces police car could of delivered his fatal injuries but that don’t look good does it when you got a story to sell.

[bitontheslide]

well, the group were all guilty to some extent if they were involved, but one or more will have struck the fatal blow hence the priority.

Ask 10 people for accounts of what happened and they would all be different even if they were telling the truth. So sorting that lot out is going to be difficult.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

well, the group were all guilty to some extent if they were involved, but one or more will have struck the fatal blow hence the priority.

Ask 10 people for accounts of what happened and they would all be different even if they were telling the truth. So sorting that lot out is going to be difficult.

Only one person can drive a van at one time hence one person charged with murder and theft of a qaud bike

.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Only one person can drive a van at one time hence one person charged with murder and theft of a qaud bike

.

But everyone in the van can be done for joint enterprise especially if they didnt say anything which is clearly the case

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

But everyone in the van can be done for joint enterprise especially if they didnt say anything which is clearly the case

Clearly there is not enough evidence to put anyone else in the van, these people were not caught at the scene.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Clearly there is not enough evidence to put anyone else in the van, these people were not caught at the scene.

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

There was more than one vehicle involved plus the guy that is being charged is not from the traveler cumunity.

This crime can be stopped with current technology.

I think your view does more harm than good crime is committed by people from every way of life.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

There was more than one vehicle involved plus the guy that is being charged is not from the traveler cumunity.

This crime can be stopped with current technology.

I think your view does more harm than good crime is committed by people from every way of life.

He is a traveller and you can tell that from Facebook and all the people who are saying he is innocent

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Nobody was caught at the scene, but there was 10 people and one getaway vehicle so they were all obviously in the van and have chosen to keep quite like the scum they are.

Modern day travellers are the scummiest of the scum, my dad said they were never like this decades ago and they had more respect for people

Imagine being able to say that about a whole community in 2019 without censure, if that was any other community would you be able to tar them all with the same brush? How many travellers do you actually know Adam?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Imagine being able to say that about a whole community in 2019 without censure, if that was any other community would you be able to tar them all with the same brush? How many travellers do you actually know Adam?

I actually live in an area where travellers think they rule the roost stealing public land to live on burglaries and constantly causing trouble when they go out on nights out