[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by arista

He's like a yoyo

[joeysteele]

I can go with Labour just going with what voters decided in a referendum.
On 'a deal negotiated to be in a customs union' or 'remain'.

Either being acceptable, that I would be happy with.
That's Corbyn's position.

Although the party conference may yet demand a stronger remain stance, which he'd have to abide by if that was passed.


There won't be, however if a referendum was held as to 'no deal' or 'remain', then obviously Labour would support remain.

I could support both to remain or leave with a deal that included a customs union arrangement.

So Labour policy makes sense to me.

I'd just never support a no deal scenario.

I don't agree with the Lib Dem position of, were they, ( fantasy land however), to go from 18 seats, ( around 5 of which were NOT won seats but people leaving other parties), to over 320 seats.
I cannot support the lack of all democracy in not asking voters if they want to revoke or leave with a deal.
Nor after a general election, with 320+ MPs, but likely no more than 35% to 40% of votes cast.
To just carry out revoking.

The Con position, who are the government,( just), is bad too.
A no deal scenario looming and a power crazed dangerous madman seemingly deceiving all and determined to take us to that no deal scenario.

In 1975, Harold Wilson did recommend 'in' during the referendum.
However all his MPs and Cabinet were free to follow either side of the issue.
That was right then and could be right now.

Even Cameron had the same position re MPs and his Cabinet.
Although he was firmly on the remain side himself.

If all through, Cabinet and Shadow Cabinet and ALL MPs been able to decide all on free votes and not party whip voting.
We maybe would have avoided this chaos and mess that's been created the last 3+ years now.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Liam-

How would we react if say, Trump came over here and demanded a press conference was done how he wanted it to be done to avoid reporters and a rowdy crowd? He’d be told to suck it up and go with it cause he’s in Britain, so guess what, Boris should have sucked it up and do what was expected of him, not hide away like the big baby he is because he couldn’t get his own way, he’s the Prime Minister, his duty is to answer to the people and he failed to do that, the sympathy for him is actually baffling, guaranteed it wouldn’t be there if it was someone else, he’s a childish, delusional, ignorant baby.

Spot on again Liam.
On the World stage, he makes the UK a laughing stock.

[arista]

For Alf

[arista]

[arista]

[Twosugars]

Poland’s ambassador to the UK has written to 800,000 Poles advising them to “seriously consider” returning home and expressed concern about the application process for getting settled status in the UK after Brexit.

Arkady Rzegocki said while the process was straightforward, he was concerned. “Forty-two percent of EU citizens who have applied to achieve settled status have had problems. Many have received pre-settled status,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Wednesday.
The Guardian

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Fools, the only thing anyone who wants No Deal is fighting for is a better tax deal for the elites that have taken advantage the Brexiters' gullibility.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Poland’s ambassador to the UK has written to 800,000 Poles advising them to “seriously consider” returning home and expressed concern about the application process for getting settled status in the UK after Brexit.

Arkady Rzegocki said while the process was straightforward, he was concerned. “Forty-two percent of EU citizens who have applied to achieve settled status have had problems. Many have received pre-settled status,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Wednesday.
The Guardian

You got room for an Englishman?

[arista]

Good Enough for use in a Labour Party Political Broadcast



Although it appears to be a set up?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

You got room for an Englishman?

always

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by arista

Good Enough for use in a Labour Party Political Broadcast



Although it appears to be a set up?

Makes up for all those tory plants in question time and in the televised debates . what he said was bob on mind.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Poland’s ambassador to the UK has written to 800,000 Poles advising them to “seriously consider” returning home and expressed concern about the application process for getting settled status in the UK after Brexit.

Arkady Rzegocki said while the process was straightforward, he was concerned. “Forty-two percent of EU citizens who have applied to achieve settled status have had problems. Many have received pre-settled status,” he told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme on Wednesday.
The Guardian

Really? I got an answer pretty much straitaway. But I have the right papers. Maybe some don't?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Really? I got an answer pretty much straitaway. But I have the right papers. Maybe some don't?

It was in papers not long ago. Idk what it is but 42% have trouble. It could be serious in years to come

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

It was in papers not long ago. Idk what it is but 42% have trouble. It could be serious in years to come

They can still appeal. Hopefully they will all get to stay.

[Twosugars]

The supreme court told:

We’ve got hear the mother of parliaments being shut down by the father of lies. Rather than allowing lies to triumph, listen to the angels of your better nature and rule that this prorogation is unlawful and an abuse of power which has been entrusted to the government.

This government is showing itself unworthy of our trust as it uses the powers of its office in a manner that is corrosive of the constitution and destructive of the system of parliamentary representative democracy on which our union polity is founded.

Enough is enough. Dismiss this appeal, and let them know that. That’s what truth speaking to power sounds like.
The Guardian

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Good Enough for use in a Labour Party Political Broadcast



Although it appears to be a set up?

He poisoned his son to get him in hospital at just the right time?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

It was in papers not long ago. Idk what it is but 42% have trouble. It could be serious in years to come

did you have to apply,? I have quite a few EU co-workers who had no issues but then they were supported in their applications by the University

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

did you have to apply,? I have quite a few EU co-workers who had no issues but then they were supported in their applications by the University

I have a dual citizenship so no.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Good Enough for use in a Labour Party Political Broadcast



Although it appears to be a set up?

I don't think there should ever be those ridiculous setup 'press meetings' in hospital, where politicians or whoever the **** wants to use ill people to make themselves look good invite the press there, so they can be filmed appearing to give a **** tbh.

I also kind of don't get why someone would blame Boris for stuff thats happened before he was 'in charge'. I do get what this guy is talking about mind. And of course he is 100% correct..years of 'austerity' has damaged the NHS possibly beyond repair...along with loads of other issues. Never really understood the 'austerity' plan if I am honest, I don't see how it could possibly work to recover an economy, if anything, it would make things worse from what I understand? Anyway, thats besides the point really. So yeah, agree with this guy, but feel his anger is a bit misdirected really, but something needs to be done and that CAN be Boris..won't be though I don't think..

[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He poisoned his son to get him in hospital at just the right time?

Of Course Not
But he spoke like
as a Active Labour Activist

If only he was not high up in the Labour Party
it would have been great for
a Labour Party Election Broadcast


There he is

[Scarlett.]

How dare someone express and opinion and show up God Emperor Boris! They must be some kind of evil remoaner heretic

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dia.

How dare someone express and opinion and show up God Emperor Boris! They must be some kind of evil remoaner heretic

No Its Fine
his kid is ill.

But its important we all know who he is
and that he works for the Labour Party.


Fair and Balanced News

[arista]

I am Fair and Balanced.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think there should ever be those ridiculous setup 'press meetings' in hospital, where politicians or whoever the **** wants to use ill people to make themselves look good invite the press there, so they can be filmed appearing to give a **** tbh.

I also kind of don't get why someone would blame Boris for stuff thats happened before he was 'in charge'. I do get what this guy is talking about mind. And of course he is 100% correct..years of 'austerity' has damaged the NHS possibly beyond repair...along with loads of other issues. Never really understood the 'austerity' plan if I am honest, I don't see how it could possibly work to recover an economy, if anything, it would make things worse from what I understand? Anyway, thats besides the point really. So yeah, agree with this guy, but feel his anger is a bit misdirected really, but something needs to be done and that CAN be Boris..won't be though I don't think..

All those meetings were booked bc he thought he'd have an election campaign

Austerity is about government spending and hits government employees and public services. It's about balancing the books ie reducing public debt by reducing government expenditure.
Nothing to do with growing economy as that's private sector. And as long as theres a stimulus of lower taxes, easier borrowing etc the economy may still grow while the public sector suffers. Not forever of course. That's an outline and I'm sure I didnt explain it well enough and/or missed something.