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Saw the full exchange on the news, Boris just can't help but lie can he?
Guy: "You're here for a press opportunity!"
Bojo: "No I'm not"
Guy: *points to TV camera.
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Saw the full exchange on the news, Boris just can't help but lie can he?
Guy: "You're here for a press opportunity!"
Bojo: "No I'm not"
Guy: *points to TV camera.
Deceit and lying are in my view, the only things he's perfected.
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So what was he, a plant? A Labour actavist?
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Wow, and this is an example of the attitudes of those not Labour.
God help the UK then.
That's not an argument. that's just you throwing a tantrum.

Leave means leave.
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Cameron on the referendum

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As early as January 2012, Cameron said he thought a referendum would be a good idea because the EU bloc was becoming “multi-speed” as a result of the single currency. He said he had held this view before the rise of the Ukip threat or increases in immigration – and that it was not driven by the need to protect the Conservative party from Ukip’s advances.

He wrote that during the referendum campaign Lord Rothermere, the owner of the staunchly pro-Brexit Daily Mail, told him over tea in Downing Street that leaving the EU would be “a disaster”.

Cameron replied: “Why on earth have you got someone editing the Daily Mail who is determined to drive us out?” This was reported as Cameron urging Rothermere to sack Paul Dacre, but Cameron says this was not the case, although he added: “I wish I had.” Rothermere replaced Dacre two years after the Brexit vote.
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The Department for Education has told schools to ensure their own sources of food in the event of the UK leaving the EU without a deal, as part of an urgent appeal to gauge preparations for Brexit.

The letter from the DfE – sent out this week and revealed by the education company Tes – was criticised by school leaders for putting the burden for maintaining food supplies on English schools and councils without giving any practical advice or support.

It comes after a secret DfE briefing paper last month warned of food and travel disruption possibly leading to school closures, as well as difficulties in administering exams, if there were a no-deal Brexit.
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Northern Ireland’s chief constable has said his police officers could be killed if they had to patrol border checkpoints in the event of a hard Brexit.

Simon Byrne told the Guardian he opposed officers having to patrol checkpoints on a physical border between Northern Ireland and the Republic and said officers who were already under huge strain would be placed in danger policing any checkpoints.
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So what was he, a plant? A Labour actavist?
No of course he wasn't a plant, I was highlighting that does happen.. but of course it isn't the case here! Have you read or seen the footage?
Yes he is an activist which in this case is besides the point he was speaking in his capacity as frightened father not Labour activist, from the report that is obvious and his points are valid.
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Does anyone honestly think that Boris does anything that doesn't stroke his own ego?

He got caught out and it doesn't matter who caught him out, it was Boris himself who put himself in the position to be caught out
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...I just think it’s extraordinary that the focus has been on a father, because of his political leanings....rather than a father with a one week old daughter who in his words..’almost died’ because of the wait she was subjected to on the ward...this could be the child of any one of us, no matter what our politics...is that not the main focus of concern, an indication of a serious failing of our health service...
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...I just think it’s extraordinary that the focus has been on a father, because of his political leanings....rather than a father with a one week old daughter who in his words..’almost died’ because of the wait she was subjected to on the ward...this could be the child of any one of us, no matter what our politics...is that not the main focus of concern, an indication of a serious failing of our health service...
Of course that's the point Ammi, had he not been an activist the guy would be a hero!
Opinion seems to be that due to his activism his anger should be viewed with scepticism, it's a sad indictment of how indoctrinated we've become.
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Of course that's the point Ammi, had he not been an activist the guy would be a hero!
Opinion seems to be that due to his activism his anger should be viewed with scepticism, it's a sad indictment of how indoctrinated we've become.

I don't care what anyone's political leanings or even if they are or not a Party's activist.

You're hardly going to see a Con activist taking on the PM.

It's more likely going to be those from other Parties or none.
To suggest a child would be better off dead than have a Father highlighting the failings of care in a hospital.
Is disgusting.

The telling point of this too in addition to the problems in hospitals now.
Is when as you said, the PM tried to indicate all this wasn't a photo opportunity for the press, and that none were there.
Only for this worried Father to direct his hand towards them, showing they were there.

Johnson takes others for fools, yesterday he showed himself a dangerous fool.

He is the present PM.
His Party in government have run down the NHS, the top down reorganisation, promised would not happen post 2010.
Still causing problems now across the board.

Johnson supported his Party's policy, as to cuts,although to be fair, he wasn't an MP when the NHS reorganisation was done.

He's sought the top job however so he now gets the fallout from the results of bad policy.
To his credit, he himself has said he was pleased this Father confronted him.

What worried Father or Mother or any other next of kin wouldn't confront anyone who should be doing more and not messing about on photo shoots.

(By the way Alf, if all you think I was doing is ranting, that's quite hypocritical considering the post I was responding, out of sheer disgust to).

On another issue now.
Also as to 'leave means leave', what an actually hollow term that is in my view.
Anyone even to just be wanting to leave a job, would, if they were sensible, ensure their security, plans and the way forward before doing so
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On that small point, then setting out to be leaving an institution after over 40 years, should require the longest and most best prepared of all, as to future, security, plans and the very best of all ways forward.
Before leaving.

I've just watched on breakfast TV, asking people about a possible shortage of medicines
A guy on insulin said he didn't care if he couldn't get his insulin, as long as we left the EU.
For crying out loud, what is happening to the basic common sense of some in this Country.

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Of course it's an embarrassment he's had every senior role going! He's had a microscopic view on the impact of Tory austerity for almost 20yrs!!... Who is he trying to kid? Foff Boris you absolute joke of a man.
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Of course it's an embarrassment he's had every senior role going! He's had a microscopic view on the impact of Tory austerity for almost 20yrs!!... Who is he trying to kid? Foff Boris you absolute joke of a man.
Apart from foreign secretary he has never had a major role in government

Boris has put the NHS at the centre of his ambitions so far so worth waiting to see if he can deliver before unleashing a furious rant at him when he's been PM less than 2 months
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So what was he, a plant? A Labour actavist?


No his Child is Ill.
So he had a Right to have a Go at the PM

But as he was a Labour Activist
it gave him a boost.


A Doctor has said
the Dad was put close to the PM
so as he walked past he could then have ago.
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A Strange by product from this
A Twitter Campaign to sack Laura Kuenssberg
As she reported he is a Labour Activist.
Which is True
Of Course others were onto who he was long before Laura .


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Apart from foreign secretary he has never had a major role in government

Boris has put the NHS at the centre of his ambitions so far so worth waiting to see if he can deliver before unleashing a furious rant at him when he's been PM less than 2 months
I didn't say only in govt did I? Within his conservative career, he was London mayor for 2 terms, look at his amazing record there, he can't and won't deliver... it was nothing more than was said..a press opportunity. There are jobs on indeed today crying out for managers for PFI contracts, that are still being awarded that suck the NHS dry.. what will he do about that?
It's comparable to throwing money down a drain.

This pathetic electioneering is so transparent.
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A Strange by product from this
A Twitter Campaign to sack Laura Kuenssberg
As she reported he is a Labour Activist.
Which is True
Of Course others were onto who he was long before Laura .

i've never liked her. Any time she is on I switch to another channel.
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A Strange by product from this
A Twitter Campaign to sack Laura Kuenssberg
As she reported he is a Labour Activist.
Which is True
Of Course others were onto who he was long before Laura .

The works is going mad.
She is a political journalist..she didn’t lie.
So she must be sacked
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The works is going mad.
She is a political journalist..she didn’t lie.
So she must be sacked

Yes I posted it long before her.
Its her duty to report hidden facts
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A Strange by product from this
A Twitter Campaign to sack Laura Kuenssberg
As she reported he is a Labour Activist.
Which is True
Of Course others were onto who he was long before Laura .

Typical of the brocialists that they viciously target the woman journalist, I see all sorts of sexist stuff said about her from people who like to make out they are great champions of equality. Doubt there'd be this outrage if someone like Peston had done it
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