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Old 22-09-2019, 11:02 AM #1851
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I dont care for leaver propaganda and lies.

The simple fact is the ref was advisory and non binding
Propaganda? The guy is probably the most famous living historian in the country.
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This is an interesting one as well

...thank you....I will watch it again a bit later because I’m sure that I didn’t absorb it all on first watch...it’s pretty much a more in depth discussion following on from what Dara said...?...I find it all incredibly sad that, that fragile ‘blood red line’ was so easily discarded...so much is often said of ‘freedoms and identities fought so hard for...our rights, etc...’...and yet freedoms and identities have been discarded, pushed aside..so easily...how ironic..?....it’s also incredibly sad that the freedom and identity of people has been voted on with little or no knowledge...that to me would be like a jury deciding a verdict on a case they were not present in the courtroom for and hadn’t heard the evidence and defence.....

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Old 22-09-2019, 11:11 AM #1853
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Propaganda? The guy is probably the most famous living historian in the country.
He is not the most famous historian, plus he is a brexiteer and a tory, so hardly impartial on the issue

I dont need his spin

In law ref was advisory and non biding, that all.
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Old 22-09-2019, 11:19 AM #1854
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He is not the most famous historian, plus he is a brexiteer and a tory, so hardly impartial on the issue

I dont need his spin

In law ref was advisory and non biding, that all.
Who's spin do you need?
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All this talk about Ireland. Didn't Ireland vote to leave the EU or some sort of vote on the EU and they were made to vote again until they voted the correct way?

I remember hearing something about that.
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All this talk about Ireland. Didn't Ireland vote to leave the EU or some sort of vote on the EU and they were made to vote again until they voted the correct way?

I remember hearing something about that.
I do like this selectiveness. You posted a few pages ago about how we'll have more money for the NHS when we stop paying into the EU, I gave you the real financial info and you disappeared faster than Madeline.
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I do like this selectiveness. You posted a few pages ago about how we'll have more money for the NHS when we stop paying into the EU, I gave you the real financial info and you disappeared faster than Madeline.
You don't know the financial info. Why would they tell you?

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Old 22-09-2019, 12:04 PM #1858
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You don't know the financial info. Why would they tell you?
That's really the reply you want to go with?

They don't have to tell me, independent financial experts make it known to everyone, by looking at the data and reporting their findings.
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That's really the reply you want to go with?

They don't have to tell me, independent financial experts make it known to everyone, by looking at the data and reporting their findings.
Good on em' I expect they do a great job.
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I do like this selectiveness. You posted a few pages ago about how we'll have more money for the NHS when we stop paying into the EU, I gave you the real financial info and you disappeared faster than Madeline.
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All this talk about Ireland. Didn't Ireland vote to leave the EU or some sort of vote on the EU and they were made to vote again until they voted the correct way?

I remember hearing something about that.
No we never voted to leave the EU
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No we never voted to leave the EU
Why vote to leave a family of supportive fellow Europeans
Unless you want to become an American colony that is
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This is an interesting one as well

it's getting to the stage now that I see those in the UK have no comprehesion about the British border here in Ireland..Just shocking.
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No we never voted to leave the EU
facts don't matter in Brexitland
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it's getting to the stage now that I see those in the UK have no comprehesion about the British border here in Ireland..Just shocking.


No they all know
but want to keep their Parliament Conservative Leave seats.


Its not Shocking
its Typical.
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Results don't matter to Communists.
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Cool story but WTf has it go do with the British border here in Ireland
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Alf is thinking about the referendum on the Lisbon treaty I expect

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Cool story but WTf has it go do with the British border here in Ireland
I wasn't talking about the border in Ireland. I was responding to your insult of people who want to leave the EU.

It's strange that I have to explain that to you, and why you thought we was discussing something else.
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Alf is thinking about the referendum on the Lisbon treaty I expect
There was something when they were made to vote again, right?

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No they all know
but want to keep their Parliament Conservative Leave seats.


Its not Shocking
its Typical.
tragic that they push us under the bus so that they will hold their Conservative seats
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There was something when they were made to vote again, right?
They rejected the Lisbon treaty then passed it on a second referendum although I think it was a revised treaty that they then approved

At least Ireland had a referendum on it though - we were always promised one and never got it. It's why I think Cameron has a point that sooner or later an EU referendum would have been needed in this country because there'd been so many transfers of powers from countries to the EU since we joined it that the UKs position needing resolving
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There was something when they were made to vote again, right?
yes, there was. It's happened in other EU countries too where the referendum was rerun
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I wasn't talking about the border in Ireland. I was responding to your insult of people who want to leave the EU.

It's strange that I have to explain that to you, and why you thought we was discussing something else.
Never insulted anyone that want's to leave the EU..would just rather deal with fact's
You already acknowledged you didn't understand the Lisbon treaty here in Ireland.

fact's my friend
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They rejected the Lisbon treaty then passed it on a second referendum although I think it was a revised treaty that they then approved

At least Ireland had a referendum on it though - we were always promised one and never got it. It's why I think Cameron has a point that sooner or later an EU referendum would have been needed in this country because there'd been so many transfers of powers from countries to the EU since we joined it that the UKs position needing resolving
As much as this referendum as been a sh!t show. I think it was needed, and it's really exposed people for what they are and shown the absolute contempt our representatives have for the people they're paid to serve, and how far removed they are from the people of this country. This definitely needed to happen to drain the swamp, I only hope it ends peacefully.

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