[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

This basically translates to 'I don't care if someone lies to me nonstop just as long as it's something I want to hear'. How undignified to be so accepting of conmen and liars just because you think they validate your lack of knowledge about the realities of no deal brexit. By supporting No Deal, you're basically supporting the act of the elite deep dicking you to get a good tax deal.

You need to get some manners and have a bit of respect before we can have a debate. Until then, you're in Coventry.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The whole argument is based on the use of descriptive language jet.. it's a running theme.

You asked were the PMs words horrific enough to warrant the backlash, I simply flipped that to ask if the MPs words were horrific enough to warrant your condemnation?

How could she know what language he was going to use, how could she and others who calmly asked him to temper his word know how he would react...
It's a debate chamber, that's what they do there, they don't drag each other to the side for quiet chats.

It was emotive, being given death threats would I think make you emotional, especially if you express your fears to the person who is exacerbating the problem but who also happens to be the leader of the country..and they react with 'humbug'

I didn't condemn her words, I said the timing and delivery was inappropriate. S
She knew what language he habitually used, as she referred to people being harrasssed in the street using words he used.

As I said, it was far too serious a subject to think yelling at a person is going to bring the desired results if that is what you truly want, rather than trying to embarass and goad them into retaliating. He is now refusing to stop using the words 'surrender bill'.
A behind the scenes meeting with him could have brought success, we'll never know.
So not surprisingly, given her way of handling a serious subject, she failed.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

You might have jumped to the wrong conclusions there. It's the likes of Jess Phillips, and others, that only know how to play the victim that are magnifying anything Boris says, for their regular victimhood fix.

Exactly ,fancy advertising to the nutters of the country how 'scared' you are and how it gets to you,they will do it even more ,but as you say ,good publicity for them .

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

You need to get some manners and have a bit of respect before we can have a debate. Until then, you're in Coventry.

And they talk about the language used in parliament

[Tom4784]

Good leaders avoid inflammatory language when speaking about issues like this for a reason, if you can't accept that using language on a national stage that makes out that people who disagree with you are the enemy of the people, then you're part of the radicalised masses that probably cheer on such behaviour.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

I didn't condemn her words, I said the timing and delivery was inappropriate. S
She knew what language he habitually used, as she referred to people being harrasssed in the street using words he used.

As I said, it was far too serious a subject to think yelling at a person is going to bring the desired results if that is what you truly want, rather than trying to embarass and goad them into retaliating. He is now refusing to stop using the words 'surrender bill'.
A behind the scenes meeting with him could have brought success, we'll never know.
So not surprisingly, given her way of handling a serious subject, she failed.

You absolutely did condemn her words, you said they were horrific.
Yes she knew what language he used, her exchange was after several members had requested he tempered his language. He was never going to stop using that term no matter how he was asked.
You have attempted to victim blame here and it's shameful, she gave an empassioned plea to his better nature not realising perhaps he doesn't have one....
She did not fail, she succeeded more people are now aware of the inappropriate comments the PM makes than ever.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Exactly ,fancy advertising to the nutters of the country how 'scared' you are and how it gets to you,they will do it even more ,but as you say ,good publicity for them .

More victim blaming.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

By supporting No Deal, you're basically supporting the act of the elite deep dicking you to get a good tax deal.

The image in my head

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

You need to get some manners and have a bit of respect before we can have a debate. Until then, you're in Coventry.

Respect is earned, not given on demand and your argument of accepting MPs that you know have lied to your face deserves no respect.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

More victim blaming.

It may have a direction at me Kizzy.
Since I said earlier on this thread how fearful I was becoming even just canvassing.
Never mind what MPs must be feeling.
Which I mostly got from some, only derision on.

So I must be advertising to the nutters too my worries.
So my fault admitting I have fears, if MPs have fears are stupid for advertising their fears.

The real nutters are more possibly those who brand people traitors, cowards who surrender or terrorists.
Firing generalised accusations around like confetti.


More victim blaming definitely as you say.

They wouldn't maybe do so and think more, if the dangerous accusations were being fired at them, their families or people they like.
Rather than not giving a jot for those receiving those threats who they don't care for.
Disgraceful .

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Good leaders avoid inflammatory language when speaking about issues like this for a reason, if you can't accept that using language on a national stage that makes out that people who disagree with you are the enemy of the people, then you're part of the radicalised masses that probably cheer on such behaviour.

Says you using inflammatory language....and as usual, painting people with broad strokes.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You absolutely did condemn her words, you said they were horrific.
Yes she knew what language he used, her exchange was after several members had requested he tempered his language. He was never going to stop using that term no matter how he was asked.
You have attempted to victim blame here and it's shameful, she gave an empassioned plea to his better nature not realising perhaps he doesn't have one....
She did not fail, she succeeded more people are now aware of the inappropriate comments the PM makes than ever.

As a Corbyn admirer, (the terrorist hugger and anti - semite enabler) you don't have a leg to stand on my dear when it comes to talking about inciting voilence. Your words are so hypocritcal its insane.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It may have a direction at me Kizzy.
Since I said earlier on this thread how fearful I was becoming even just canvassing.
Never mind what MPs must be feeling.
Which I mostly got from some, only derision on.

So I must be advertising to the nutters too my worries.
So my fault admitting I have fears, if MPs have fears are stupid for advertising their fears.

The real nutters are more possibly those who brand people traitors, cowards who surrender or terrorists.
Firing generalised accusations around like confetti.


More victim blaming definitely as you say.

They wouldn't maybe do so and think more, if the dangerous accusations were being fired at them, their families or people they like.
Rather than not giving a jot for those receiving those threats who they don't care for.
Disgraceful .

Joey i assure you it wasnt aimed at you at all,I havent been about that much, I try and keep out of here as much as possible ,but will comment on things I feel I agree with and I agreed with Jet, that was all.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey i assure you it wasnt aimed at you at all,I havent been about that much, I try and keep out of here as much as possible ,but will comment on things I feel I agree with and I agreed with Jet, that was all.

It was Alf you agreed with Kaz, but you can agree with me anytime.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

It was Alf you agreed with Kaz, but you can agree with me anytime.

I did wonder if it was ,Alf, lol but We mostly agree on things Jet

[arista]

"Blame ‘remoaners’"



Yes Slim
Some of them are Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

Says you using inflammatory language....and as usual, painting people with broad strokes.

Aww, you almost understood what I was saying then, almost. Maybe it'll dawn on you next time. Not gonna hold my breath though.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Aww, you almost understood what I was saying then, almost. Maybe it'll dawn on you next time. Not gonna hold my breath though.

No, don't hold your breath as I rarely read what you say anymore. I don't appreciate know -it - all, 'I'm always in the right' posts.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by jet

No, don't hold your breath as I rarely read what you say anymore. I don't appreciate know -it - all, 'I'm always in the right' posts.

Oh? You're gonna pretend not to read my posts? Oh, whatever will I do? How am I supposed to cope without the great and wonderful JET acknowledging my posts and giving my life meaning?! Oh Fates! Thoust are most cruel!

If you cheer on Boris' terminology, you are part of the problem. No ifs or buts about it. Such terminology has no place in politics, not when right wing extremists take such statements to heart and Right Wingers are more concerned with pointing fingers at the left instead of, you know, weeding out the extremists.

[Kizzy]

Can't disagree with any of that...

[arista]

[Twosugars]

Another example of a hysterical language
"collusion "

[MTVN]

So much for there being no threat of violence from the left

[Ammi]

..the banner is the perfect example of the importance of words/terminology with the potential impact and dangers...with all parties though, there is a lack of self awareness, combined with huge personal egos...Boris Johnson’s mindset of its everyone else but not me because my language is fine, is not helping at all...