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...raising a hand to a child is displaying the very opposite of self control, which is what they’re meant to be learning...
Doing wrong things in life, comes with consequences is the lesson, I think
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....and learning consequences is important, rather than learning a slap...if you do wrong in my eyes, I will hit you...that’s how big I am and how small you are, is not any definition of a lesson that will positively benefit the character of a child in any way...

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They'll go through much, much more stress and trauma in their lives than getting a tanned arse for misbehaving.
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Probably but it's not one or the other... you can just do neither of those...
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Just be as big a kid as they are..they will always look up to you..

Until they are bigger than you, but the jobs already been done by then...let them moan about not having any discipline in thier lIves when they were younger as they explain away thier flaws in thier 40s..
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Just be as big a kid as they are..they will always look up to you..

Until they are bigger than you, but the jobs already been done by then...let them moan about not having any discipline in thier lIves when they were younger as they explain away thier flaws in thier 40s..
You can discipline kids without hitting them. Many perfectly rounded adults were not hit as children.
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somethings always rubbed me the wrong way about using violence to discipline children
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You can discipline kids without hitting them. Many perfectly rounded adults were not hit as children.
And many were..maybe parents should be allowed to judge how thier own kids would react to certain disciplines or what thier own kid needs for discipline.

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Hitting kids is so primitive. Whenever I experienced it or witnessed it, it was always because the parent was angry or didn't know what else to do. Very sad.
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Hitting kids is so primitive. Whenever I experienced it or witnessed it, it was always because the parent was angry or didn't know what else to do. Very sad.

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including the Spanish Bull race through Streets,
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Yeah, I don't think that should be done either. I've never supported anything like that though. I stand by my opinion that physically hurting children as a form of punishment is oafish.
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Yeah, I don't think that should be done either. I've never supported anything like that though. I stand by my opinion that physically hurting children as a form of punishment is oafish.
I agree, I constantly see this suggestion that smacking can be done in a level-headed, deliberate way without anger as a fully considered part of parenting... and yet, I have literally NEVER seen a parent hit a child when it wasn't simply a case of them getting angry and losing control. I think "calm smacking" is a lie and an excuse.
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I agree, I constantly see this suggestion that smacking can be done in a level-headed, deliberate way without anger as a fully considered part of parenting... and yet, I have literally NEVER seen a parent hit a child when it wasn't simply a case of them getting angry and losing control. I think "calm smacking" is a lie and an excuse.


Wasn't that how it used to be done..the father would put the naughty child over his knee when he came home from work...I think I was parented by a man who experienced that...it made him chase me from the living room up and half way up the stairs to smack my bare legs a good few times in a total rage ...that made me the father I am...I think my grandkids upbringing will be peaceful.
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I agree, I constantly see this suggestion that smacking can be done in a level-headed, deliberate way without anger as a fully considered part of parenting... and yet, I have literally NEVER seen a parent hit a child when it wasn't simply a case of them getting angry and losing control. I think "calm smacking" is a lie and an excuse.
"Calm smacking" seems even weirder
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We know they're socialists, we know they're nationalists, we now see them enforcing a law on the Scottish people, in this thread.

Why is it so wide of the mark?
Not this nazis were socialists rollocks again?... oh my days
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Yup, like brexit
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Scotland is an interesting beast. They're the first place I am aware of that made it illegal for dog-owners to teach their dogs the Nazi salute. Very odd.
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Scotland is an interesting beast. They're the first place I am aware of that made it illegal for dog-owners to teach their dogs the Nazi salute. Very odd.
America is riddled with Scots .has been since the signing...how many of them were scottish again?

15 or something out of 49..
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They were overwhelmingly of English descent. Interesting fact, during the American War for Independence, Americans were pretty divided (about 1/3 were for Leave, 1/5 were for Remain, and the rest wanted another referendum ). Scots were overwhelmingly loyal to the British crown.
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They were overwhelmingly of English descent. Interesting fact, during the American War for Independence, Americans were pretty divided (about 1/3 were for Leave, 1/5 were for Remain, and the rest wanted another referendum ). Scots were overwhelmingly loyal to the British crown.
https://www.electricscotland.com/his...0of%20Scotland.



As a scot, I will take all that as riddled.
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As a scot, I will take all that as riddled.
I like Scotland but the relationship between Scotland and America during the War for American Independence was an odd one. Scottish tended to be loyalists to British crown. That's an interesting article you have given me. Here's an interesting one I'll share with you:

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In both Scotland and America, the overwhelming majority of Scots rejected colonial theories about the rights of Englishmen and remained loyal to the British crown. Scottish emigrants, more often than not, became Loyalists and participated in large numbers in the armed provincial regiments. The most sophisticated retort to the Declaration of Independence, The Rights of Great Britain Asserted Against the Claims of America: being an Answer to the Declaration of the General Congress, was penned by James Macpherson, a Scottish member of parliament who, in addition to his well-known fabrications of Gaelic poetry, also wrote for the North government.[2] For a nation that had won its independence from England in the early fourteenth century and had fought numerous wars to protect this independence, such loyalty may seem bizarre. This article will attempt to explain, in part, why this was not as odd as it might seem.
https://allthingsliberty.com/2013/10...an-revolution/
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