[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sleleen

Working hard has nothing to do with dance experience

He has done theatre school, but so as Kelvin. And probably some of the others.

[RileyH]

it's an entertainment show who honestly cares about who has done a dance class before and who hasn't

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by RileyH

it's an entertainment show who honestly cares about who has done a dance class before and who hasn't

[sleleen]

Originally Posted by RileyH

it's an entertainment show who honestly cares about who has done a dance class before and who hasn't

Yeah no idc either just dunno why people have one rule for one and another for another

[Liam-]

Karim is literally trained in ballet like Debbie was, difference being, Debbie hadn’t done it for about 40 years

It’s funny what you can get away with if you have a penis

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Karim is literally trained in ballet like Debbie was, difference being, Debbie hadn’t done it for about 40 years

It’s funny what you can get away with if you have a penis

He's not the only one to have dance training in there.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by RileyH

it's an entertainment show who honestly cares about who has done a dance class before and who hasn't

I agree. I vote for who entertains me the most. And that's Karim. But we all have our favourites

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's not the only one to have dance training in there.

But he has a considerably larger amount of it than the others

[Liam-]

On another note though, no more Kevin being rammed down our throats

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Morgan.

But he has a considerably larger amount of it than the others

I think Kelvin has more. He can dance anything. Karim doesn't find it all easy like he does

[Vanessa]

Most celebrities have been to theatre school. So they may already have rhythm and musicality.

[Vanessa]

If Karim had the most dancing experience, he would be top of the leader board every week. But he isn't.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Most celebrities have been to theatre school. So they may already have rhythm and musicality.

umm Lady Emma, David James surely have no experience before strictly, rough starts but they are getting there now, maybe in different leagues compared to ringers Visage, Kelvin, Karim, Catherine, Saffron but i enjoy watching them in training, enjoying every second, every minute of their journeys (from nothing to dancer)

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think Kelvin has more. He can dance anything. Karim doesn't find it all easy like he does

You can think what you like but dealing in facts and not delusion; Karim is by far and away the cast member with most experience, no matter how you try and shift gears. Karim is trained in ballet, has been in the cast of multiple musical theater productions which have multiple dance numbers in them...how are you sitting here telling us Kelvin has more training?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If Karim had the most dancing experience, he would be top of the leader board every week. But he isn't.

Because Kelvin and Michelle especially have better rhythm. Doesn't change the fact Karim is a professionally trained ballet dancer.

[Amy Jade]

I wouldn't say anyone is cheating, over the years we have had people on with different levels of training from before the show.

For my mind ai am always just more impressed with true novices at first, but Kelvin has no dance training I am aware of whereas Karim is a ballet dancer and has theater credits in roles that require dance experience and training so am I as impressed with a professionally trained dancer being quite good or Michelle Visage who has very little if any experience...Michelle 100%

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Michelle what a joke to call her a beginner, she has performing experience, character experience, dance experience

she's more the female john barrowman in terms of ringer-level


also that smug look on her face during results show, i saw them sweat at first but then after revealed through ''we knew it we would go through'' VILE

What performance experience does she have? She's 50 and was in Seduction in her 20's but if you watch any of their performances their dancing is clearly very basic.

Is she simply your current hate target who you'll hurl abuse at until called out and then flip and support her?

[Liam-]

You dare come for Michelle!

[Vanessa]

She's not a complete beginner, but I like her.
Now Chris is a beginner, and I think he's doing great.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I wouldn't say anyone is cheating, over the years we have had people on with different levels of training from before the show.

For my mind ai am always just more impressed with true novices at first, but Kelvin has no dance training I am aware of whereas Karim is a ballet dancer and has theater credits in roles that require dance experience and training so am I as impressed with a professionally trained dancer being quite good or Michelle Visage who has very little if any experience...Michelle 100%

The way Kelvin dances, I'd say he' has definitely had some dance training. He's not a complete beginner at all

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Because Kelvin and Michelle especially have better rhythm. Doesn't change the fact Karim is a professionally trained ballet dancer.

Most celebrities have been to theatre school. They do some dance training in there.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

umm Lady Emma, David James surely have no experience before strictly, rough starts but they are getting there now, maybe in different leagues compared to ringers Visage, Kelvin, Karim, Catherine, Saffron but i enjoy watching them in training, enjoying every second, every minute of their journeys (from nothing to dancer)

Personally, I don't mind who has had dance training or not. I support the one who I find the most entertaining.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

The way Kelvin dances, I'd say he' has definitely had some dance training. He's not a complete beginner at all

He's actually told those who questioned him that he has no prior experience apart from the Full Monty which is basic. I did gymnastics and competitive dance for 5 years and some people just take to it that quick.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Most celebrities have been to theatre school. They do some dance training in there.

It's literally the basic of basic though, again...Karim is a trained ballet dancer. You don't have to change your opinion, like who you like but that is a fact.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Because Kelvin and Michelle especially have better rhythm. Doesn't change the fact Karim is a professionally trained ballet dancer.

Why does it matter so much? , there's been quite a few celebs with ballet & other dance backgrounds so what ?.

Its an entertainment show