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Old 06-10-2019, 02:59 PM #26
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"No deal is better than a bad deal" was in the Tory manifesto. We tried a deal, but it turned out to be a bad deal, so what now?
It was said.

However the Con party like all others stated clearly we would get a deal.

Since you raise that point however, it may well have been one of the reasons the Cons had their overall majority taken off them.
Thinking about it.

Leads of 15% to 20% in polling should never have resulted in no overall majority for the Cons.
In around 4 weeks of a campaign.
Even with the bigger margin of error of polls now.

The voters then perhaps doubting the Cons sincerity to ensure a deal was in place, so elected a Parliament that would ensure no deal was effectively removed from the scenario.

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Only reason we didn't get the deal is because of the snobbery of the EU unelected leaders..the cons are merely guilty of underestimating the people they had to deal with.
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Only reason we didn't get the deal is because of the snobbery of the EU unelected leaders..the cons are merely guilty of underestimating the people they had to deal with.
oh go fook….

you didn't get a deal because of the snobbery of your own crappy parliament


EU gave you guys lots of time, that time i'm afraid is now up, we've had it with all that confusion going on in britain
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oh go fook….

you didn't get a deal because of the snobbery of your own crappy parliament


EU gave you guys lots of time, that time i'm afraid is now up, we've had it with all that confusion going on in britain
That's not the kind of language I'd associate with a Dutch man.

You've been learning too much from my potty mouth.
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oh go fook….

you didn't get a deal because of the snobbery of your own crappy parliament


EU gave you guys lots of time, that time i'm afraid is now up, we've had it with all that confusion going on in britain
They gave us lots of time so they could drink and scoff expensive wines and food while laughing at us
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They gave us lots of time so they could drink and scoff expensive wines and food while laughing at us
And who could blame them? We had 1 job... leave and protect infrastructure, rights, protections and standards while preserving the good friday agreement, and we can't even do that!
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And who could blame them? We had 1 job... leave and protect infrastructure, rights, protections and standards while preserving the good friday agreement, and we can't even do that!
not one item you have listed has ever been a priority for someone that voted brexit. People who voted for brexit voted to leave .... and they won, and they are still waiting. As a remainer I'm happy to stay, but if I had voted to leave I would be pretty hacked off by now. May clearly stated no deal was better than a bad deal and no-one has been able to come up with an acceptable deal from any side in parliament.

I don't want a no deal situation, but we have to face facts at some point, that there will never be an acceptable deal which means we must leave without a deal.
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not one item you have listed has ever been a priority for someone that voted brexit. People who voted for brexit voted to leave .... and they won, and they are still waiting. As a remainer I'm happy to stay, but if I had voted to leave I would be pretty hacked off by now. May clearly stated no deal was better than a bad deal and no-one has been able to come up with an acceptable deal from any side in parliament.

I don't want a no deal situation, but we have to face facts at some point, that there will never be an acceptable deal which means we must leave without a deal.
Really workers rights, food standards and environmental protections were of no concern? The good Friday agreement was of no concern and could be torn up?...
In that case they are all in my eyes bigger fools than I thought!
We don't HAVE to do anything, whats the rush? What's 3yrs... Nothing, I don't want to be railroaded out of Europe because clearly this shower of ****e in govt want to no deal, they can get back and submit something workable!

No deal is a bad deal.. who in their right mind would want that? Hard borders, WTO rules ...madness!
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Only reason we didn't get the deal is because of the snobbery of the EU unelected leaders..the cons are merely guilty of underestimating the people they had to deal with.
If the EU was a football club with 28 players on its books and one was disruptive and wanting to leave.
In any scenario they'd let the whining one go and protect to hold onto the 27 dedicated players left.

Now no doubt you'll fire back that is a silly comparison, fair enough.
However I think not.

We applied and applied to join up to the 70s, the then EEC, we moaned all the time at De Gaulle using his veto to stop us.

We got in via the Cons once De Gaulle was gone.

We then had our governments we elected time after time, signing treaties and forming the now EU.
Thatcher one of the strongest advocates of the single market.

We got a rebate via her efforts.
We have an opt out to ever joining the Euro.

Like all EU members we have a veto too.
If one EU Nation uses its veto as we could have.
Anything we didn't want or like could not be implemented.

Now we want to leave, yet also not even want the trading elements now, we desperately wanted to be part of.

Why on earth should the EU now bend to please us and do all they can for us.
It's pathetic to think they should.

The EEC was set up without us.
We really aren't that special in the wider global picture of things.

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not one item you have listed has ever been a priority for someone that voted brexit. People who voted for brexit voted to leave .... and they won, and they are still waiting. As a remainer I'm happy to stay, but if I had voted to leave I would be pretty hacked off by now. May clearly stated no deal was better than a bad deal and no-one has been able to come up with an acceptable deal from any side in parliament.

I don't want a no deal situation, but we have to face facts at some point, that there will never be an acceptable deal which means we must leave without a deal.
Soft brexit is the best that can be squeezed out of the referendum result

May made a mistake with her red lines
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...he’s not a Prime Minister, Kizzy...he’s just a very naughty boy..?..
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