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Old 07-10-2019, 03:22 PM #2876
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that should please the vegans, no one will be able to afford spaghetti bolognaise
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that should please the vegans, no one will be able to afford spaghetti bolognaise
The anorexic lobby will be pleased that no one will be able to afford to eat anything.
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...’what have the EU ever done for us...’...so reminds me of the Romans sketch in Monty Python../...Life of Brian...we got back so much more than we put in...
Apart from funding our poorest cities, giving us access to their markets tariff free, and protecting our food standards, what have the eu ever done for us.
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How are labour to blame for a 10yr attack on public sector workers?

Because its not 10 year
its much longer...............................
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Apart from funding our poorest cities, giving us access to their markets tariff free, and protecting our food standards, what have the eu ever done for us.
....hmmmm, it’s given us affordable flights which has meant that the lowest income families have been able to have that lovely sunshine as well..hmmmm, I’m pretty sure it might have given us Prosecco as well...(...and other fine wines and spirits at affordable prices..)...which a few of my gals, hugely appreciate...


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...while we’ve still fully kept our currency, our Greenwich meantime and our individual identity...seems to have been a win/win deal to me...
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They are Blocking the Entrance to Downing Street
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Moan about parliament being blocked, then block the road so the pm can't get to work...makes sense.
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1 in 6 Americans get food poisoning every year, as opposed to 1 in 100 of us currently protected by EU regulations.
I did warn people... on this very forum but did anyone listen?...noooo.
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I did warn people... on this very forum but did anyone listen?...noooo.
It's worrying indeed.
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I did warn people... on this very forum but did anyone listen?...noooo.
I've said it too.
How come ""the people" are silent on this?
When they come for workers protections "the people" will be doubly screwed
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https://politics-punked.com/2019/10/...entity-crisis/

Brexit is a bit like someone sticking two fingers up at a window and then discovering it’s a mirror.

It is an enormous act of self harm based on an insecure delusion of what Britain was, what Britain is, and what Britain should be.

There is a long-held Little Englander optical delusion of Britain parading around like something out of the encore section of Last Night of the Proms. A place called Britain that should always rule the waves. This British identity framing is how the Britain’s Conductor-in-Chief, Boris Johnson, likes to orchestrate it.

This is delusional. Britain is now a battered ship Britannia sailing against the wind across stormy waters and travelling towards an iceberg, that because of a lack of planning and poor navigation, 52% of the crew somehow decided didn’t exist.

There was a time that Britain mattered internationally and was comfortable with its direction of travel. It is a country with an incredible history and many admirable values.

The British ‘values’ of politeness, humour, endeavour, manners, creativity, multiculturalism, stoicism, civic pride, innovation, and community spirit were held in high esteem across the world. Sadly, these values appear to be getting drowned out by sound of exceptionalism draped around the Little Englander flag of patriotism.

Britain is a place that gifted the world Shakespeare, Dickens, Keats, Brunel, Newton, Shackleton, Rowling, Attenborough, Burns, Hawking, Bowie, Lennon, McCartney and many many more. This brilliantly creative outward looking confidence has now been replaced with the insular and insecure drumbeat of the Daily Mail, The Sun, Nigel Farage, Mark Francois, Katie Hopkins, Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson and Tommy Robinson.

Genuinely awe inspiring secure identity and pride has been replaced by an insecure and confused identity based on ethnic nationalism and England, in particular, currently has an identity crisis.

Now, with Brexit, this identity crisis seems to be embracing an introverted irrelevance has been paradoxically embraced by an extroverted Prime Minister.

Boris Johnson was pivotal to the victory of Brexit in the 2016 referendum. His appeal is based on two things. 1) Jingoistic faux-optimism 2) Deceitfulness that, rather regrettably, many people have fallen for. This great charlatan loves to sell a Brexitannia fantasy, a remnant of Britain’s persistent empire delusion and post-imperial confusion about its proper place in the world, hanging on to non essential expensive status symbols like a nuclear deterrents while its essential public services are under funded and dismantled.

Britain, once renowned for its pragmatism, common sense and political stability has become the diametric opposite. It is now an island of wild empty rhetoric, impulsive populism and political extremism combined with a dumbing down of political discourse. Political heavyweights have been replaced by shock-jock political lightweights. Common sense has left the island.

Over the past 3 years, British politics has failed to grasp the one thing that it really needed to grasp:- what Brexit actually means. The reason nobody knows what Brexit means is because its roots stem from a 30 year psychodrama within the Tory party but without a strategic end game. Brexit is a way of deflecting from a multitude of problems facing our country – many of them caused by the Tory party themselves.

Brexit has lurched from being a loose and vague idea based around the premise of sovereignty and freedom, while remaining in the single market, towards the grotesque possibility of a crashing out of the EU without a deal – something what was never considered as a serious option back in the referendum of 2016. It’s now become the Brexit of choice by the kind of populist, demagogue empty vessels sailing in the far-right waters of British politics and the right-wing tabloids. It’s happened because an inherent lack of understanding about Brexit and an existential confusion about the identity composition of Britain itself.

Britain is now showing disturbing symptoms of a full-blown identity crisis. A previously outward-looking and globalised country is now fractured by the backlash against the very model that made Britain strong.

The roots of this backlash stem from a gradual erosion of Britain’s industrial base, disenfranchised communities and economic decline and an increase in understandable resentment. But, this has been wilfully exploited by the readiness of the Tory Party in particular, to lie and peddle obvious untruths, to place party politics over and above the national interest, and then to manipulate the narrative to create a perceived wisdom that somehow the problems within British society were somehow, the fault of foreign institutions or foreigners migrating to live and work in Britain. This con-trick has been going on for four decades.

Brexit is a huge step backwards for Britain. It is a step backwards for progressive internationalism and a step forward for regressive isolationism. British politics is now riddled with deeply provincial and introverted mindset at a time when Britain should be to be at ease with playing a significant role in outward-looking global expressionism.

Brexit has become an identity conflict in Britain. It is binary choice, pitching those who see Britain as being a place of multicultural outward inclusivity verses those who see Britain as a place of xenophobic inward parochialism. It is Danny Boyle’s London Olympics Opening Ceremony verses Last Night of the Proms. It is Remainers verses Brexiters. And like Brexit and indeed, Britain itself, it is unclear as to where the great ship Britannia is heading.
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Sadly, none of this will wash with the Brexiters intent on steering us into No Deal. Logic and facts have no place with someone who disregards such things in favour of blind (ignorant) faith that everything will be okay when it's obviously won't be. At the end of the day, they care more about 'winning' then the self harm they'll inflict on themselves.
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"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything"

George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.
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George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.
''accomplish'' well was on the local radio here, they said apparently since the brexit referendum in 2016, britain has been billions poorer than before the referendum

so if this is already before you guys officially exited the EU, well cannot wait how much financial losses you have after that
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George Mcfly

George wasn't a defeatest, he plucked up the courage to give Biff a clout, and win Lorraine's heart.
The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."

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No need. A similar amount of work will get done
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I’ve probs shared this before

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I’m not saying there wasn’t a democratic mandate for Brexit at the time. I’m just saying if I narrowly decided to order fish at a restaurant that was known for chicken, but said it was happy to offer fish, and so far I’ve been waiting three hours, and two chefs who promised to cook the fish had quit, and the third one is promising to deliver the fish in the next five minutes whether it’s cooked or not, or indeed still alive, and all the waiting staff have spent the last few hours arguing amongst themselves about whether I wanted battered cod, grilled salmon, jellied eels or dolphin kebabs, and if large parts of the restaurant appeared to be on fire but no-one was paying attention to it because they were all arguing about fish, I would quite like, just once, to be asked if I definitely still wanted the fish.
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what are we accomplishing though, apart from getting out of bed with our nearest neighbours and jumping into bed with countries who are far larger than us and will call the tune
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