[Maxxie.]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

Sadly I can only see him maybe winning the public vote if there is one, he has no chance of winning the actual thing and he’ll probably end up coming 5th.

[Maxxie.]

What happens if the circle vote is a draw?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

Because his haters a horrible people who dont have happiness in their lives

[Wizard.]

The only good thing Woody has done all series is show his feet

[LukeB]

No one hates Woody....

[Wizard.]

I actually like all of them, except maybe Paddy, and I didn’t like Ella but I did feel bad for her tonight. Georgina’s the only one who I can’t find a negative for

[Twosugars]

Woody will win viewers vote. To me that's far more important than who the clique decides to crown.

It would be hilarious if paddy won though

All I hope for is that sammie doesn't

[GoldHeart]

Love him or hate him i'm glad Sammi is IN the final just for the showdown meeting with them all that we'll see tomorrow .

It's going to be even more of a shock than Kate & Dan last year . The players jaws will drop when they see who Sammi really is ! .

Wasn't a fan of all of Sammi's game plan and manipulation tactics, but i'm glad Ella has gone. Georgina is the last girl standing .

[MB.]

Originally Posted by WickedSkengMan

Zoe is a BBC darling and will get him all over the BBC

That's the precise definition of nepotism hun

[Raxton]

We might get a shock winner tbh
The only votes we can guess is the one from Tim & Woody
Georgina's could go either way tbh
Paddy & Sammie surely gonna go tactical like what Freddie did last year imo

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Love him or hate him i'm glad Sammi is IN the final just for the showdown meeting with them all that we'll see tomorrow .

It's going to be even more of a shock than Kate & Dan last year . The players jaws will drop when they see who Sammi really is ! .

Wasn't a fan of all of Sammi's game plan and manipulation tactics, but i'm glad Ella has gone. Georgina is the last girl standing .

Meeting face to face. This will be fun

[Raxton]

btw no viewer champion vote this series?

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

I don’t get why woody deserves it less cos his parents have money, he works in a pub ffs

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

And that’s fine, but there’s various arguments that he shouldn’t win it because of who his parents are, which is absolute bollocks.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

Yeah I have to agree , Woody stuck with Ella & Tim and it was usually them or other players that started chats with him. He only made an effort in the beginning when he was bottom at the ranking.

Woody is harmless but without the detective catfish board and his ornament dog "Denny" , there wouldn't be much else . But one of his highlights is getting rid of Beth & Jack .

[Twosugars]

Woody for viewers win, the only objective indicator of popularity

Catfishes back to murky waters where you belong

[starry]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Woody will win viewers vote. To me that's far more important than who the clique decides to crown.

The public vote is very dependant on the edit. Woody had a one dimensional and safe storyline. And his mother saying her listeners support him suggests she has extra influence because of her position.

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

But one of his highlights is getting rid of Beth & Jack .

The reality is most of the catfish in both seasons were useless and without prep and were just put in to be found out. Woody didn't even start with the detective thing until much later, it reminded me of Genelle suddenly finding an interesting in Dan last year. He needed some storyline.

[Twosugars]

Georgina will feel pretty stupid when she realizes she got rid of her friend ella bc a catfish told her to

[starry]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Georgina will feel pretty stupid when she realizes she got rid of her friend ella bc a catfish told her to

Ella was voting Woody to win.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by starry

The public vote is very dependant on the edit. Woody had a one dimensional and safe storyline. And his mother saying her listeners support him suggests she has extra influence because of her position.

Idc about his "storyline" bc I dont apply criteria of a fictional story to real people
I'm judging them of who I'd like as a friend, who is a kind person. And that sure as hell wouldn't be sammie

It always baffles me when people judge contestants in rtv as if they were fictional characters. They are not. Sooner or later they start being themselves bc they cant keep up the facade. So I judge them for who they are.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

Well said. I totally and utterly agree and he rates Georgina bottom or nearly at the bottom as if she doesnt even matter

[Raxton]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

I mean he deserves it less than the others for doing nothing of note all series bar some stupid whiteboard chart. He spent the last 2 weeks just being all pally with Ella and Tim. He's not interesting, he rarely will start a chat and he's coasted to the final. He's a typical Big Brother bore that gets further than they should.

Well the same thing could be said for all of them except Sammie & Tim

[starry]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Idc about his "storyline" bc I dont apply criteria of a fictional story to real people
I'm judging them of who I'd like as a friend, who is a kind person. And that sure as hell wouldn't be sammie

It always baffles me when people judge contestants in rtv as if they were fictional characters. They are not. Sooner or later they start being themselves bc they cant keep up the facade. So I judge them for who they are.

We hardly know them really, the airtime isn't that big. And they are put in a very usual situation, either the environment or having to make stuff up. I've no doubt that everyone would prefer to go in as themselves, but the producers will obviously want some to play catfish, or to make up some stuff to make the show more interesting.

Also it's an entertainment show. I may find someone on reality tv very likeable in their way but also not very interesting where the game is concerned. Sy seems a nice guy but he didn't really light things up, not many people probably wanted him in the final.

[GrandMasterFox]

Just caught up to the last two episodes.


First, I think it's safe to guess that this year, there would be no public voting.
I mean come on, that would be completely absurd and unfair.

Normally, when shows give public voting, your friends and family will rally up behind you - which is perfectly understandable.

But when both your parents have a social media following that is far larger than all other players' family and friends combined... Yeah... that's absurd.

Woody would win this no matter what - regardless if he actually deserves that or not. It's just not a fair thing for everyone.

If, on the other hand, they would have rounded up say 100 random people or something and asked them to rate them family feud style that might work.

But just letting the public vote is stupid.


Second, I liked things heating up, but man does it feel like production is really trying to manipulate things. Like setting up the ratings super early so the alliance can't talk to each other in advance?

And why did they both get to "suddenly" save one person each? How come this didn't happen last time?
Seriously, without that save, Sammie would be out the door asap.

And why did Georgina get to go and see Ella? Why didn't Ella get to pick who she wants to see? Obviously to get them to talk and make sure Georgina has conflicted feelings - otherwise the finale is pointless.

Just feels a bit too obvious they are changing things as they go along.




Honestly, this is a game. People need to calm down. I suggest that people who try to assume how much "vile" some contestants are, they should read up a bit about the behind the scenes.

Alex (last year's winner) does some youtube videos talking about the stuff you don't see. Short version : The conditions they live in there are terrible and would get anyone mad. There's a reason why they have a therapist on call 24\7 so that at point someone has a breakdown they can help them out.
And they did. He said they had to talk him out of leaving several times and it seems that others did the same.

So the reasons people constantly shout, scheme, cry or whatever is more of the result of the conditions than anything else.
Well, that and editing of course.




As far as the finale goes, it's a bit weird. To be honest, I thought the only person who really deserves to win just left the show - Ella.

Georgina and Paddy are too passive. They are pushover pawns and never instigate anything.

Sammie tries to play a good game, but he's actually terrible at it. He doesn't have a chance to win the game. Tim and Woody would rank him the lowest.
Classic mistake.
All of his talk only helped Georgina and Paddy having a shot of winning but he himself has 0% chance of winning. Hence his game is dumb. It's not like he cares about either of them that I would say it's an acceptable move.
Even Ella figured him out in 5 seconds and already alerted Georgina.

Plus, he really lost his catfish game. How the heck can you be so careless as not to mention Charlie in the video?

Tim tries to play a good game but honestly, he clearly alienates players as he goes along. He really should have given Georgina a better reason for blocking Brooke.

Woody... oh boy Woody... Nice kid but he is completely dense. Actually shares the same issue with Tim - They are too stupid to spend their time trying to figure out catfishes.
Umm... Why? The Catfish can vote just like everyone else.

Thus my point on the only one really deserving to win is the one who actually understood that - Ella.

Ella was the only smart enough to sass "Josh" out to everyone then rush to "Josh" and warn him about it. I can't believe people are talking about Ella being "honest" when she's insanely fake on that move alone.

But as far as the game is concerned? She's the smartest one in the group. She makes an effort to connect with everyone - catfish included - to get their votes.

Sammie said he was going for that, but did nothing about it.

But since Ella is out the door? I guess next best one is Georgina.
People say that Brooke's goodbye hurt her but it's the other way around. It got her to start playing the game.

It's too little but apparently not too late.

Originally Posted by Morgan.

Final prediction;

Georgina: Paddy > Sammie > Tim > Woody
Sammie: Georgina > Paddy > Tim > Woody
Paddy: Sammie > Georgina > Tim > Woody
Tim: Woody > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie
Woody: Tim > Georgina > Paddy > Sammie

I disagree.
Tim is the only one I'd agree with. Maybe Paddy.

Sammie isn't completely stupid. He knew Georgina is likely to be an influencer hence he voted for her now. For the same logic he should put Paddy over her so she would be less likely to run past him.
Also I wouldn't put it above him to figure out that he might be better off putting Woddy at the top. Enough vote splitting not to put him at a shot of winning but prevents other COT members from getting to the top.

Woody may or may not completely turn around. I don't think Woody would put Georgina over Paddy. He barely talks to her and she did kick Ella out. He might also be upset with Tim.

Georgina is a complete wildcard here.
If she realizes that Catfish, Sammie could be lowest for her.
If she doesn't, she could put Sammie first for getting her there.


Overall, I don't think Sammie or Woody have any shot of winning.
Georgina seems like most likely winner with... Oddly enough... Paddy being second? Guess it makes sense. He isn't anyone's favorite but he is clearly the "least hated" of the group. Tim is third only if he manages to completely sway Georgina in a final chat. Which is still possible if he exposes Sammy.


P.S

Someone remind me again, why did they all pick Jan over Andrea?
Because he had looks and no personality? And she had...?

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by GrandMasterFox

Just caught up to the last two episodes.


First, I think it's safe to guess that this year, there would be no public voting.
I mean come on, that would be completely absurd and unfair.

Normally, when shows give public voting, your friends and family will rally up behind you - which is perfectly understandable.

But when both your parents have a social media following that is far larger than all other players' family and friends combined... Yeah... that's absurd.

Woody would win this no matter what - regardless if he actually deserves that or not. It's just not a fair thing for everyone.

If, on the other hand, they would have rounded up say 100 random people or something and asked them to rate them family feud style that might work.

But just letting the public vote is stupid.


Second, I liked things heating up, but man does it feel like production is really trying to manipulate things. Like setting up the ratings super early so the alliance can't talk to each other in advance?

And why did they both get to "suddenly" save one person each? How come this didn't happen last time?
Seriously, without that save, Sammie would be out the door asap.

And why did Georgina get to go and see Ella? Why didn't Ella get to pick who she wants to see? Obviously to get them to talk and make sure Georgina has conflicted feelings - otherwise the finale is pointless.

Just feels a bit too obvious they are changing things as they go along.




Honestly, this is a game. People need to calm down. I suggest that people who try to assume how much "vile" some contestants are, they should read up a bit about the behind the scenes.

Alex (last year's winner) does some youtube videos talking about the stuff you don't see. Short version : The conditions they live in there are terrible and would get anyone mad. There's a reason why they have a therapist on call 24\7 so that at point someone has a breakdown they can help them out.
And they did. He said they had to talk him out of leaving several times and it seems that others did the same.

So the reasons people constantly shout, scheme, cry or whatever is more of the result of the conditions than anything else.
Well, that and editing of course.




As far as the finale goes, it's a bit weird. To be honest, I thought the only person who really deserves to win just left the show - Ella.

Georgina and Paddy are too passive. They are pushover pawns and never instigate anything.

Sammie tries to play a good game, but he's actually terrible at it. He doesn't have a chance to win the game. Tim and Woody would rank him the lowest.
Classic mistake.
All of his talk only helped Georgina and Paddy having a shot of winning but he himself has 0% chance of winning. Hence his game is dumb. It's not like he cares about either of them that I would say it's an acceptable move.
Even Ella figured him out in 5 seconds and already alerted Georgina.

Plus, he really lost his catfish game. How the heck can you be so careless as not to mention Charlie in the video?

Tim tries to play a good game but honestly, he clearly alienates players as he goes along. He really should have given Georgina a better reason for blocking Brooke.

Woody... oh boy Woody... Nice kid but he is completely dense. Actually shares the same issue with Tim - They are too stupid to spend their time trying to figure out catfishes.
Umm... Why? The Catfish can vote just like everyone else.

Thus my point on the only one really deserving to win is the one who actually understood that - Ella.

Ella was the only smart enough to sass "Josh" out to everyone then rush to "Josh" and warn him about it. I can't believe people are talking about Ella being "honest" when she's insanely fake on that move alone.

But as far as the game is concerned? She's the smartest one in the group. She makes an effort to connect with everyone - catfish included - to get their votes.

Sammie said he was going for that, but did nothing about it.

But since Ella is out the door? I guess next best one is Georgina.
People say that Brooke's goodbye hurt her but it's the other way around. It got her to start playing the game.

It's too little but apparently not too late.



I disagree.
Tim is the only one I'd agree with. Maybe Paddy.

Sammie isn't completely stupid. He knew Georgina is likely to be an influencer hence he voted for her now. For the same logic he should put Paddy over her so she would be less likely to run past him.
Also I wouldn't put it above him to figure out that he might be better off putting Woddy at the top. Enough vote splitting not to put him at a shot of winning but prevents other COT members from getting to the top.

Woody may or may not completely turn around. I don't think Woody would put Georgina over Paddy. He barely talks to her and she did kick Ella out. He might also be upset with Tim.

Georgina is a complete wildcard here.
If she realizes that Catfish, Sammie could be lowest for her.
If she doesn't, she could put Sammie first for getting her there.


Overall, I don't think Sammie or Woody have any shot of winning.
Georgina seems like most likely winner with... Oddly enough... Paddy being second? Guess it makes sense. He isn't anyone's favorite but he is clearly the "least hated" of the group. Tim is third only if he manages to completely sway Georgina in a final chat. Which is still possible if he exposes Sammy.


P.S

Someone remind me again, why did they all pick Jan over Andrea?
Because he had looks and no personality? And she had...?

They didn’t get pictures of them, they had blank profiles. They all took turns asking them questions and picked based on the responses.