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08-10-2019, 02:01 PM | #101 | ||
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Well, we could just as easily say the same about people sitting around talking in front of a camera... if you ignore the movies themselves and focus on the minutiae of how they are made.
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08-10-2019, 02:36 PM | #102 | ||
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What does Scorsese think of Spielberg, though? Because there are actually numerous examples of Spielberg movies that are just as CGI-heavy and plot-light as any Superhero movie (and moreso than a few). Spielberg is huge on spectacle, visuals and action... and I can't think of many (any??) of his films that I'd refer to as "trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences" as their prime objective. For Scorsese, then... is Spielberg "not real cinema"? That would be a pretty bold statement .
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08-10-2019, 02:43 PM | #103 | |||
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Different strokes for different folks. Superhero films have been around for a very long time. To say they're 'not cinema' is ridiculous. There's been several comic book films that have been critically acclaimed.
Marty's probably just jealous that most comic book films can make more money than his entire films combined. |
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08-10-2019, 02:45 PM | #104 | |||
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08-10-2019, 02:52 PM | #105 | ||
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To be fair though I doubt it has anything to do with the money the films make, Scorsese has a 9-figure personal net worth, it's purely misplaced intellectual snobbery. |
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08-10-2019, 03:11 PM | #106 | |||
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To be fair most of Spielberg's films at least try to have some "heart" in them.
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08-10-2019, 03:56 PM | #107 | |||
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Spielberg is versatile, he doesn't have his own style like Scorsese. Spielberg will just adapt to whatever script he has. The likes of Kubrick. Scorsese, Hitchcock, Tarantino and I'd say Nolan definitely have their own certain style, recognisable as their work. But Spielberg definitely does deserve the respect he doesn't always get, he has an impressive catalogue of work himself and was the major player in the blockbuster era. |
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08-10-2019, 04:26 PM | #108 | |||
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08-10-2019, 04:35 PM | #109 | |||
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08-10-2019, 07:19 PM | #110 | ||
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I've never been a huge fan of Spielberg, I like the films but never so much his direction. I acknowledge his talent but I've always thought he was highly overrated.
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08-10-2019, 07:22 PM | #111 | |||
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I prefer Tarantino.
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08-10-2019, 08:11 PM | #112 | |||
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I guess there's a difference between a good director and a good filmmaker.
Take George Lucas - the movie industry has sooo much to thank him for. He's behind the inventions of practically every type of special effects used today, in order to make the Star Wars movies the way he wanted them. Pixar is also an offshoot of ILM, but admittedly he sold it long before Toy Story. Star Wars and Indianna Jones have likely influenced about half of current filmmakers in one way or another. He's also tangentially to thank for PhotoShop! (there's another thing I can't recall offhand) All this is true. but when it comes to directing a simple dialogue scene ... sheesh! Last edited by Oliver_W; 08-10-2019 at 08:12 PM. |
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09-10-2019, 03:07 AM | #113 | |||
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There's a room for all types of Movies imo, apart from the deceptive ones that lie about what they are.
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09-10-2019, 03:54 AM | #114 | |||
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Also I'm not the biggest fan of stories that focus too much on Romances (unless they're comedic) but I'd still call them Cinema, and I'm sure that some of them are good Movies at what they are, I wouldn't just dismiss the genre as "bad" like Scorsese has done with Superhero stuff.
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09-10-2019, 05:29 AM | #115 | |||
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...’build it and they will come..’...and if they come, then it’s cinema because it becomes part of the beating heart of cinema audiences...it would be interesting to take away all of the Marvel audiences from the box office figures over the years...and see what cinema would be without them...it’s good for cinema though, that he has many people talking about it...
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09-10-2019, 05:38 AM | #116 | |||
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...I wonder what he thinks of Harry Potter../..Star Wars movies...
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09-10-2019, 10:10 AM | #117 | |||
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I think the distinction is that it is the Marvel Cinematic Universe he is against, not comic-book or superhero genre. The problem is with the word 'Universe' because that means people will go to see the film just on the basis it is part of the franchise. The film then becomes even less dependent on earning its success through its quality.
I caught up on them because they are part of the zeitgeist now, and I didn't want to miss out. I do think it will become more difficult for the whole world they've built to make any sense, with so many superheros roaming around who can't appear in every film or TV series. Quote:
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09-10-2019, 10:25 AM | #118 | ||
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We watched the Twilight films fairly recently with our daughter... Honestly if anything they're worse than I remembered. And the first one is the WORST one, the central performances are abysmal and... Well... weird... So the worry isn't unfounded. |
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09-10-2019, 10:39 AM | #119 | |||
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09-10-2019, 11:45 AM | #120 | ||
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Although actually, the worst of Twilight saga has to go to the... very... Uncomfortable? relationship between Jacob and the little girl in the final film. They tried valiantly to make it not weird, they even had poor Taylor Lautner insisting endlessly that it's not weird. But it's weird . Last edited by Toy Soldier; 09-10-2019 at 11:46 AM. |
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09-10-2019, 01:24 PM | #121 | |||
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That gives off Angel vibes with Buffy.
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09-10-2019, 01:55 PM | #122 | ||
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It's a tough sell. |
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11-10-2019, 04:31 AM | #123 | |||
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I'm glad to have never seen a single Film from that franchise.
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20-10-2019, 09:58 PM | #124 | |||
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Francis Ford Coppola now.
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20-10-2019, 10:15 PM | #125 | |||
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First and foremost Movies are supposed to be entertaining, I think that Coppola fails to understand that not every story has to be an emotional Drama where you gain something out of it as he puts it.
It's people like him why we get an episode like He Said, She Said from Brooklyn Nine-Nine as they don't understand what story they're making and they make a bastardised story.
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