[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I chat to my postie often enough. It's a disgrace what they're doing to you guys.
Stand strong.

Thanks mate, give my regards to your Postie!

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

To be fair, Royal Mail / Post Office have always been the same. I remember when I was a kid my mum worked for Post Office and my Dad for BT, both were out on strike at the same time...dad was out for weeks. It crippled them financially and took years to recover from. No one takes strike action lightly when it directly impacts them and their families. This high court action seems to be a death knoll for the Unions if voted for actions can be over turned. We are all going to be minions soon. Sorry you're going through this Grim and Mrs Grim

Thank you AnnieK it must have been very hard for them/you and you are so right nobody takes the decision to strike lightly especially at Xmas, i mean who would vote to lose all their pay at this time without bloody good reason?

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

So right hijaxers for one thing I haven't even been at work to listen to gossip today and even if I had been we barely get time to talk to each other it's that pressurised! I don't know what/who you work for Trumpet but don't expect any help when you need it, s'pose you're just worried about not receiving your fan mail!

I am in the post office 6 days a week the depot once a week and the regional0 hub once a week Iv known postie's and work with them for 20 years. I know the work and workload better than most . Don't give me a sob story, I'm the wrong person.

The strike is off, court ruled. Read the ruling. I did.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

Thank you AnnieK it must have been very hard for them/you and you are so right nobody takes the decision to strike lightly especially at Xmas, i mean who would vote to lose all their pay at this time without bloody good reason?

Only mean, greedy people obviously

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Grim Reaper

Thanks mate, give my regards to your Postie!

I will. I will tell him about this thread too.
And welcome to the forum. Looking forward to chatting with you more.

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I will. I will tell him about this thread too.
And welcome to the forum. Looking forward to chatting with you more.

You too and thanks for your support it's appreciated!

[Ammi]

...I guess it’s become a barely recognisable workplace, Grim...with some of the changes you’ve seen...and this changes designed to stretch the workers more and more in the name of greed and profit...?...so much talk about ‘making Britain great again’...and this is such an example of the stripping away of that greatness...but sadly it’s just become a catchphrase with no meaning...hmmmm, what I find so, so concerning...is how much the unions seem to be losing their voices, when their function has always been to represent the workforce..I was thinking this a few weeks ago with Asda staff being forced to sign new contracts or face job losses...it’s a time for the rich, sadly......and no consolation at all but many people are on your side......

[Kizzy]

My dad was a postie too but on the sorting office on nights the majority of his career. Really feel for you too grim, try not to get personally invested in the comments here. Only you are aware of it has impacted on your colleagues and you personally. I agree people who are wholly ignorant to the impact the changes have had on the workforce since privatisation can't and don't know how much stress and pressure it creates as you fight to retain the rights you currently have.
It's happening across the UK, retail staff, train drivers, pilots nobody is safe from the vice like grip of share holders squeezing more and more for less and less.
It has to stop.

[Livia]

Everybody's jobs have changed. The more technological we become, the fewer people we need. And with the advent of the email, the postie's job was never going to remain the same, sadly. I have a wonderful postman called Colin. He doesn't just deliver the post, he collects it from elderly people as we're a bit remote. He checks on people to make sure they're okay, especially in very hot or very cold weather and generally looks after the people on his round. He is a super-nice man... posties do more than just deliver letters.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I guess it’s become a barely recognisable workplace, Grim...with some of the changes you’ve seen...and this changes designed to stretch the workers more and more in the name of greed and profit...?...so much talk about ‘making Britain great again’...and this is such an example of the stripping away of that greatness...but sadly it’s just become a catchphrase with no meaning...hmmmm, what I find so, so concerning...is how much the unions seem to be losing their voices, when their function has always been to represent the workforce..I was thinking this a few weeks ago with Asda staff being forced to sign new contracts or face job losses...it’s a time for the rich, sadly......and no consolation at all but many people are on your side......

I agree Ammi, the rights and protections we enjoyed from were what made Britain great and set us apart from other countries which still relied on allowing the exploitation of their workforce.
That was a Britain to be proud of, the Britain of venture capitalists rinsing the country and it's people and keeping the money offshore is not.
That catchphrase has no meaning, unless it's meant in the terms of Empire.. and that as history tells us was NOT a time of greatness but great brutality and subjection.
The unions need to find a voice quickly, it's essentially now or never or be permanently muted.

[LeatherTrumpet]

High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...

LOL... yes.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...

So whataboutism is ok ...on your terms LT

As I thought would be appreciated no two cases or courts are alike.. and these two were poles apart.
There is no comparison, as the govt regularly do when challenged the union can appeal... Nothing wrong with that.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So whataboutism is ok ...on your terms LT

As I thought would be appreciated no two cases or courts are alike.. and these two were poles apart.
There is no comparison, as the govt regularly do when challenged the union can appeal... Nothing wrong with that.

yes let them appeal but all their vile leverage (disrupt children's Christmas, feck up a very important election ) is gone. lets see how well they do with a February strike...

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes let them appeal but all their vile leverage (disrupt children's Christmas, feck up a very important election ) is gone. lets see how well they do with a February strike...

As said the strike was announced before the election was.

Why are you not worried about the kids of the posties who's mums and dads rights at work are being eroded, how will they enjoy Christmas with the anxiety of unsecured employment like the kids of the Asda employees?

But many won't think that.. they won't give flying feck about those kids as long as their ebay parcel arrives and they get good feedback.

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I am in the post office 6 days a week the depot once a week and the regional0 hub once a week Iv known postie's and work with them for 20 years. I know the work and workload better than most . Don't give me a sob story, I'm the wrong person.

The strike is off, court ruled. Read the ruling. I did.

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...

Well it seems I've been a naughty boy and have upset the sainted Trumpets' sensitive feelings, I could interpret what you said as calling me scum if I had a mind to so touche! I note you still evade telling us what you do in the Post Office 6 days a week so I'll assume you're a Franker possibly with an enlarged right arm due to all that rubber stamping! (Do try and nurture a sense of humour!)

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

As said the strike was announced before the election was.

Why are you not worried about the kids of the posties who's mums and dads rights at work are being eroded, how will they enjoy Christmas with the anxiety of unsecured employment like the kids of the Asda employees?

But many won't think that.. they won't give flying feck about those kids as long as their ebay parcel arrives and they get good feedback.

unemployment is at a record low, plenty jobs around - ideal if you do not like the current situation. Amazon are hiring as are all couriers. seekers market.

[arista]

Yes Kizzy
but the Election over rules everything

Even upsetting village halls
as they had a Dinner booked for 12th

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

unemployment is at a record low, plenty jobs around - ideal if you do not like the current situation. Amazon are hiring as are all couriers. seekers market.

Cowards way out that allows employers to get away with treating workers like cattle.
Better to stay put and fight for decent working conditions

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Cowards way out that allows employers to get away with treating workers like cattle.
Better to stay put and fight for decent working conditions

well when you find an employer that does treat people like a herd of cows be sure to let us know, as it sounds awful (and unlikely in the UK?)

with links please

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well when you find an employer that does treat people like a herd of cows be sure to let us know, as it sounds awful (and unlikely in the UK?)

with links please

Have you ever spoken to anyone who works for Amazon??? I have, the conditions there leave a lot to be desired too

[Grim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Kizzy
but the Election over rules everything

Even upsetting village halls
as they had a Dinner booked for 12th

Yes the judge actually had the neck to say that the election influenced his decision! Well I'll say it again and sorry folks but the strike ballot was way before the announcement of the General Election so that is not a valid excuse in my book!

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Have you ever spoken to anyone who works for Amazon??? I have, the conditions there leave a lot to be desired too

Yes my cousin's boy works at the big one in Dunfermline,4 days on 10 hour shifts and loves it. hard work but the time goes quick and he likes his spare time it seems.

work hard and you get on at a big forward company like Amazon

and he gets picked up by the amazon workers bus so job is a good un

[LeatherTrumpet]

dont believe the BS once a year 30 min documentaries like one that was on last week, terrible shoddy programme that amount to nothing more than a tabloid hatchet job for likes

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

dont believe the BS once a year 30 min documentaries like one that was on last week, terrible shoddy programme that amount to nothing more than a tabloid hatchet job for likes

I work in recruitment and have heard first hand of some of the horrors from previous staff members (plural), including some junior managers

Although, I'm glad your cousins son enjoys the work.