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Old 21-11-2019, 10:19 AM #1
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Default Reasons to vote Labour!

What are we expecting from Labour's manifesto launch?

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Here's a useful rundown of what to expect in what the party is billing as it's most radical manifesto from the Press Association

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- NHS

Labour*has pledged to outspend the Tories in the key battleground by spending an extra £26 billion to rebuild "crumbling" hospitals and improve patient care.

A boost of an annual average of 4.3% in real-terms investment over the next four years has been promised to take the total Department of Health budget to £178 billion in 2023-24.

Dental check-ups and prescriptions would also become free for everyone in England.

- Brexit

Within three months a new deal with Brussels would be brokered, one that would see the UK remaining in the customs union and having access to the single market.

Then, within six months of electoral victory, the deal would be put to the public in a referendum along with the option to remain in the EU.

- Wages

The minimum wage would rise to £10-an-hour for everyone, including under-18s.

This plan forms part of*Labour's war on poverty and its pledge to end the gender pay gap by 2030.

- Scotland

More than £70 billion of investment would head north of the border.

Opposition to another independence referendum is almost certain, though Mr Corbyn has not ruled out one taking place if there is the support in Scotland.

- Utilities

There is likely to be the commitment to bring the rail network back into public ownership as current franchises expire.

Bringing other utilities such as energy supply networks back into public control is also expected, as is the reversal of the privatisation of Royal Mail.

Local authorities would be given the power to bring bus services back into public control.

- Broadband

Every home and business would get free full-fibre internet by 2030 as*Labour*brings part of BT into public ownership to create a nationalised "British broadband service".

- Taxation

The top 5% of earners would pay more to fund public services, though the details are not yet clear.

Labour*would shut down "tax tricks" by going after multinational corporations with a tax on their sales, workforce and operations as a share of their global activity.

- Education

Every adult would be entitled to six years of free study as part of its "cradle-to-grave" national education service, which would scrap university tuition fees and boost technical training.

Class sizes would be cut for five to seven-year-olds, 30 hours of free childcare would be given to all two to four-year-olds and new Sure Start children's centres would be opened.

- Housing

Labour*is pledging to end the housing crisis by building 150,000 council and social homes a year in England within half a decade.

Some £75 billion of borrowing would be spent in five years to construct council and affordable housing in a massive boost from current building rates.

- Working week

A 32-hour working week would be introduced within 10 years with no loss to workers' pay.*Labour*expects this would be paid for by a boost to productivity.

- Immigration

Freedom of movement would continue if Remain won another referendum under*Labour. But, if Leave won again, restrictions could be imposed.

Mr Corbyn said he would not commit to "arbitrary" targets as he highlighted the necessity of migrant workers to the economy, particularly the NHS.

- Environment

The climate crisis has been at the forefront of*Labour's thinking in most of its pledges as it tries to make the economy carbon neutral by an as-yet unknown year.

But as part of its "green industrial revolution" it has also pledged 320,000 climate apprenticeships and billions in spending to upgrade every home to be energy efficient.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9211641.html
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the funny thing is that many of these can also be categorised as reasons to not vote labour
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the funny thing is that many of these can also be categorised as reasons to not vote labour
Yes, I mean who on earth wants an improvement to health care and education.
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the funny thing is that many of these can also be categorised as reasons to not vote labour
Aye, let’s let the NHS crumble, let homelessness continue to rise and continue to **** the envirovemnt, up the Tories!
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the funny thing is that many of these can also be categorised as reasons to not vote labour
Ok.. care to explain how?
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I don't agree with scrapping private schools - my opinion is we should get rid of second class, not first class. Make normie schools so good that there's no point in going private.

Building 150k a year isn't very green tbh, the countryside should be preserved.
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Well lets hope they put a clause in that social housing can't be sold off in the future
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Quite, Cherie. I thought that's one of the things Labour would have reversed under Blair.

They've been promising smaller class sizes since I was at school, and probably long before that. Don't know why anyone would imagine they'd actually do it this time.
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This is completely shallow and irrelevant, but Corbyn's pouty mouth and eyebrows when he's talking really creep me out.
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Ahh yes, removing Corbyns anti-racist, anti-apartheid message to replace it with something made up is completely on brand.

I guess diminishing black people isn't a problem for a millionaire tv star.
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Ahh yes, removing Corbyns anti-racist, anti-apartheid message to replace it with something made up is completely on brand.

I guess diminishing black people isn't a problem for a millionaire tv star.
What does that all even mean?

All us Jews have it wrong. All the people that have protested... wrong. Because this guy who I don't even know (probably... ) on a Big Brother forum told me.
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None unless we all want someone who looks like Catweasle to be our PM and represent us to the world!

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What does that all even mean?

All us Jews have it wrong. All the people that have protested... wrong. Because this guy who I don't even know (probably... ) on a Big Brother forum told me.
What Rachel Riley did was not about anti semitism or racism. Do you know what was actually on the board worn around Corbyns neck?

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When you're trying to make a point about racism, then using an anti-apartheid protest to do it, might not be the most appropriate or honest way to do it.

I've said that anti-semitism is a problem in labour and I wish corbyn would have handled it more expeditiously, but this is a humanity problem, and trying to hammer home this as though it's only labour shows that there is no honesty around this discussion, and frankly, it shows me that there is no real concern for injustice. I gave you 2 recent examples of tory candidates being suspended for anti semitism, and all you said was that you don't support them. Now, if they were labour candidates...

It's pretty simple.

Not all jews hate corbyn, as well you know. Are they wrong?
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None unless we all want someone who looks like Catweasle to be our PM and represent us to the world!


He could take his ex girlfriend away on business trips and other events ..

How impressive would Corbyn and Abbott look as they represented us all on trips abroad ..


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Well lets hope they put a clause in that social housing can't be sold off in the future
Maybe they will, as you know I purchased my post war prefab recently. It is defective housing stock that was only erected initially for a period not to exceed 25yrs, the internal walls are plasterboard containing asbestos.
It was perhaps unethical to sell off these properties, but to keep and bring them up to modern day standards would have cost more than the house is worth.

The proposed new council houses will be built to a much higher greener spec, and if there is no threat of unsecured tenancies or spare room taxes then there will be no need to buy them.
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What does that all even mean?

All us Jews have it wrong. All the people that have protested... wrong. Because this guy who I don't even know (probably... ) on a Big Brother forum told me.
You can't deny there is Jewish support for Corbyn, not from you clearly but even you can't speak for everyone.

Have you a view on the manifesto? Making statements like 'soviet' is not explanatory.
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None unless we all want someone who looks like Catweasle to be our PM and represent us to the world!
What an odd thing to say... what has personal appearance got to do with policy? What do you think of his plans for the post office?
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Ahh yes, removing Corbyns anti-racist, anti-apartheid message to replace it with something made up is completely on brand.

I guess diminishing black people isn't a problem for a millionaire tv star.
This was a disgrace. I can’t stand her.
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What Rachel Riley did was not about anti semitism or racism. Do you know what was actually on the board worn around Corbyns neck?

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When you're trying to make a point about racism, then using an anti-apartheid protest to do it, might not be the most appropriate or honest way to do it.

I've said that anti-semitism is a problem in labour and I wish corbyn would have handled it more expeditiously, but this is a humanity problem, and trying to hammer home this as though it's only labour shows that there is no honesty around this discussion, and frankly, it shows me that there is no real concern for injustice. I gave you 2 recent examples of tory candidates being suspended for anti semitism, and all you said was that you don't support them. Now, if they were labour candidates...

It's pretty simple.

Not all jews hate corbyn, as well you know. Are they wrong?
Listen, you made a Jew joke I found offensive. I said I didn't really want to talk to you any more. Why are you still talking to me? You seem to need some kind of statement from me about Conservative bigots... they're bigots. Like Labour bigots... they're no different.

Is that enough information for you? Or am I going to have to break it down into words of one syllable?
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