[The Slim Reaper]

[Kazanne]

I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.(Not really, i know who Im voting for )
I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.
On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.
And on the other hand..
Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry /Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
So it’s a tricky one really

FB2019 This why I do not like Corbyn and would never vote for him.

[The Slim Reaper]

Facebook versus academics leaves only one winner.

The only negative thing about Boris is that he's posh and bit of a rascal?

We're getting the government we actually deserve on Thursday.

All this concern trolling about the IRA and folks are about to take a huge step backwards to the potential of the troubles starting up again, with Boris' "deal"

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Don’t be silly, we’re only allowed to listen to the Jews who don’t like Corbyn, the other ones are all lying!

[Liam-]

I haven’t seen much outrage about there being an actual former IRA member in the Tory party, wonder why?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Facebook versus academics leaves only one winner.

The only negative thing about Boris is that he's posh and bit of a rascal?

We're getting the government we actually deserve on Thursday.

All this concern trolling about the IRA and folks are about to take a huge step backwards to the potential of the troubles starting up again, with Boris' "deal"

If it wasn’t such a dangerous outlook for the country it would be funny

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Facebook versus academics leaves only one winner.

The only negative thing about Boris is that he's posh and bit of a rascal?

We're getting the government we actually deserve on Thursday.

All this concern trolling about the IRA and folks are about to take a huge step backwards to the potential of the troubles starting up again, with Boris' "deal"

I think your man will get in tbh,so you can celebrate then, he better do a good job

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think your man will get in tbh,so you can celebrate then, he better do a good job

He won't and there are no polls even suggesting that's a possibility. He's not my man, he's just the only option we have for a more equal society.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He won't and there are no polls even suggesting that's a possibility. He's not my man, he's just the only option we have for a more equal society.

The polls are closing in,so anything could happen.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

He won't and there are no polls even suggesting that's a possibility. He's not my man, he's just the only option we have for a more equal society.

yes and we have plenty examples of equality in communist and marxist states

oh wait

no we dont

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes and we have plenty examples of equality in communist and marxist states

oh wait

no we dont

It's a pity he isn't a communist then.

Corbyn is more of a democratic socialist, and we have the data that tells us countries aligned with that ideology are the happiest in Europe, such as scandinavia or the nordic states.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.(Not really, i know who Im voting for )
I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.
On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.
And on the other hand..
Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.
Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.
Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.
Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.
Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.
Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry /Kelly.
Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.
Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.
Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.
Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.
Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.
Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.
Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.
Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.
Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.
Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.
Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.
Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.
Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.
Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.
Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.
Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.
Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.
Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.
Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.
Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.
Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.
Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.
Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.
Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.
Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.
Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.
Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.
Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.
Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.
Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.
Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.
Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.
Opposed shoot to kill.
Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.
Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.
Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.
Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.
Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.
Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.
Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.
Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.
Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.
Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.
Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.
Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.
Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.
Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.
Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.
Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.
Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.
Received endorsement from Hamas.
Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.
Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.
Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.
Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.
Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.
Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.
Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.
Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.
Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.
Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.
Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.
Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.
Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.
Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.
Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.
Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.
Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.
Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.
Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.
Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.
Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.
Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.
Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.
Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.
Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.
Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.
Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.
Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.
Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.
Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.
Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.
Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.
Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.
Voted against banning support for the IRA.
Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.
Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.
Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.
Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.
Voted against banning al-Qaeda.
Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.
Voted against control orders.
Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.
So it’s a tricky one really

FB2019 This why I do not like Corbyn and would never vote for him.

Its obvious Corbyn supporters here couldn’t care less about all that Kaz as there hasn’t been a word of criticism regarding his actions. It’s all ‘but what aboutery’ or just ignore, ignore, ignore. Or its all lies, even though there is ample evidence by serious political commentaters to be found if they wish to look for it.
There is a photo of a sick child lying on a hospital floor, which is dreadful, yes, but they are all over it.
Meanwhile there are hundreds of actual dead children lying cold in their graves right now murdered by Corbyn’s terrorist chums who he supported/still supports and they are not given a second thought. Talk about fake compassion, eh? Can people just turn off their consciences when it suits them? A terrible thought.
I’m not a Boris fan, but he’s the only chance of stopping Corbyn and his horrifically worrying mindset and the security risk he poses to the country.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by jet

Its obvious Corbyn supporters here couldn’t care less about all that Kaz as there hasn’t been a word of criticism regarding his actions. It’s all ‘but what aboutery’ or just ignore, ignore, ignore. Or its all lies, even though there is ample evidence by serious political commentaters to be found if they wish to look for it.
There is a photo of a sick child lying on a hospital floor, which is dreadful, yes, but they are all over it.
Meanwhile there are hundreds of actual dead children lying cold in their graves right now murdered by Corbyn’s terrorist chums who he supported/still supports and they are not given a second thought. Talk about fake compassion, eh? Can people just turn off their consciences when it suits them? A terrible thought.
I’m not a Boris fan, but he’s the only chance of stopping Corbyn and his horrifically worrying mindset and the security risk he poses to the country.

the real security risk is more of those far right wing tories, far right wing PVV here with us, they need to be silenced with their extreme views towards the Islam

those come across as insults to muslims

[jet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I haven’t seen much outrage about there being an actual former IRA member in the Tory party, wonder why?

I'll tell you why. She was an IRA member for a few years in the early 70's, didn't personally kill anyone, wised up when her conscience could no longer tolerate the death and destuction, left the IRA and turned her life around.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

didn't personally kill anyone

Neither did Tony Blair so that makes it alright.

[Tom4784]

The public will vote and they'll get their just desserts when they choose to vote in the Tories yet again and it will be a bitter meal for them.

I hope you like bankrupting yourselves for basic healthcare needs!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Neither did Tony Blair so that makes it alright.

Did I say it was alright? A question was asked and I gave a brief summary of what I know.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

Its obvious Corbyn supporters here couldn’t care less about all that Kaz as there hasn’t been a word of criticism regarding his actions. It’s all ‘but what aboutery’ or just ignore, ignore, ignore. Or its all lies, even though there is ample evidence by serious political commentaters to be found if they wish to look for it.
There is a photo of a sick child lying on a hospital floor, which is dreadful, yes, but they are all over it.
Meanwhile there are hundreds of actual dead children lying cold in their graves right now murdered by Corbyn’s terrorist chums who he supported/still supports and they are not given a second thought. Talk about fake compassion, eh? Can people just turn off their consciences when it suits them? A terrible thought.
I’m not a Boris fan, but he’s the only chance of stopping Corbyn and his horrifically worrying mindset and the security risk he poses to the country.

When "being photographed with..." makes up part of that stupidity, then how much condemnation do you expect. A lot of us have spoken about his imperfections, but Boris is a posh rascal is a far more nefarious approach. As the troubles in Ireland are such a huge issue, you should be massively opposed to Boris, who will cause a no deal to happen in 2020 - a complete disaster for the peace process.

You may not notice, but people are suffering and dying now, today in this union because of 10 years of tory rule, but still, Corbyn was in a photo. Then you want to talk about turning consciences on and off?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by jet

I'll tell you why. She was an IRA member for a few years in the early 70's, didn't personally kill anyone, wised up when her conscience could no longer tolerate the death and destuction, left the IRA and turned her life around.

So an actual IRA member is fine and dandy, no issues, but someone having discussions and meetings with IRA members for peace talks is out of line?

[The Slim Reaper]

Boris is believed to be a huge security risk because of his ties to lebved and his refusal to release the report on russian interference.

[Liam-]

Boris has previously had his security clearance revoked by MI6, yet Jez is the security risk? I don’t think so

[jet]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

When "being photographed with..." makes up part of that stupidity, then how much condemnation do you expect. A lot of us have spoken about his imperfections, but Boris is a posh rascal is a far more nefarious approach. As the troubles in Ireland are such a huge issue, you should be massively opposed to Boris, who will cause a no deal to happen in 2020 - a complete disaster for the peace process.

You may not notice, but people are suffering and dying now, today in this union because of 10 years of tory rule, but still, Corbyn was in a photo. Then you want to talk about turning consciences on and off?

You know little about N Ireland, my home, if you think Boris is more a threat to it than Corbyn.
But I won't waste my time explaining why, when all you can say about that list is a dismissive wave of the hand with 'Corbyn was in a photo' and calling it all stupidity.
Boris was not PM for the 10 years of Tory rule, he could possibly do things differently. I'm glad that I don't have to vote for either of them here in N.Ireland.
Have your terrorist fanboy Corbyn, I hope you can keep up the blocking out and denial of his continuing fraternising with murderers.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Liam-

So an actual IRA member is fine and dandy, no issues, but someone having discussions and meetings with IRA members for peace talks is out of line?

Corbyn didn't have discussions and meetings with the IRA for peace talks. That has been disproved years ago. It was his excuse to cover his ass, nothing more.
There is not one iota of proof, anywhere, and all those in the actual peace talks say Corbyn had nothing to do with it, it fact they say his IRA support hindered peace.
If you can find any proof to the contrary, lets be having it. Good luck.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by jet

You know little about N Ireland, my home, if you think Boris is more a threat to it than Corbyn.
But I won't waste my time explaining why, when all you can say about that list is a dismissive wave of the hand with 'Corbyn was in a photo' and calling it all stupidity.
Boris was not PM for the 10 years of Tory rule, he could possibly do things differently. I'm glad that I don't have to vote for either of them here in N.Ireland.
Have your terrorist fanboy Corbyn, I hope you can keep up the blocking out and denial of his continuing fraternising with murderers.

He wasn't pm but he was a minister. I don't remember him speaking out against universal credit, or voting against all the cuts, or the disabled work assessments.

Corporations and the government have been undertaking terrorism against the people of this country for long enough already, I'd take my chances with a man who talks about helping people over a man who avoids scrutiny wherever possible, and won't release security reports he knows will implicate him before the election.

[Tom4784]

It's all distraction tactics really, hypocritical distractions tactics given that Liam and Slim have highlighted that Boris is a REAL security risk yet the people screeching about Corbyn are too happy to ignore those very real issues.

It's not about the IRA, anti-semitism or anything else. It's about smearing a party that's a threat to the elite.