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Old 13-12-2019, 06:48 PM #1
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Default Should the voting age be lowered to 16?

Now Labour have all but completely lost Scotland

Should we give them 16-18 so they can put up more of a fight next time?
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No - age should not be a political football for the left
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Yes.

SNP is in favour of that.
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You could change it to 10, but as long as British people align themselves with candidates like these




Then none of it matters.
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Then none of it matters.
yes lets move toward a society where no one can hold a view that differs from our own as our view is right

(lets hope thats not a message to give to 16 year olds)

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yes lets move toward a society where no one can hold a view that differs from our own as our view is right

(lets hope thats not a message to give to 16 year olds)

That's just a bad parody of a bad LT post.
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No not enough 16 year olds are Political
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we should be looking to get the 35% of non voters to vote rather than bother children
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we should be looking to get the 35% of non voters to vote rather than bother children
This I do agree with.
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No, only tax payers should be able to vote, regardless of age.
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No, only tax payers should be able to vote, regardless of age.
So you would deliberately deny the under priveledged, the disabled, the unemployed and the sick a right to vote?

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If we lower the voting age to 16 would we also lower the age of majority, at which a child is considered an adult and no longer legally under their parents' control? Because that would mean that 16 year olds could be tried as adults. My personal view is that they're not ready at 16 to be considered an adult in the eyes of the law, why would we allow them vote?
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Yes - more teenagers are interested in politics than ever before, and if a 16 year old is allowed to pay tax, leave school, join the Army etc, why shouldn’t they be able to vote as well?
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Yes - more teenagers are interested in politics than ever before, and if a 16 year old is allowed to pay tax, leave school, join the Army etc, why shouldn’t they be able to vote as well?
Because they're not adults until they're 18. As I explained in my post above yours.
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Yes - more teenagers are interested in politics than ever before, and if a 16 year old is allowed to pay tax, leave school, join the Army etc, why shouldn’t they be able to vote as well?
They're not allowed to leave full time education, under 18s aren't allowed to join "front line" military service, and with the minimum wage for their age group, they won't earn enough to pay taxes.
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Because they're not adults until they're 18. As I explained in my post above yours.
That is true, but why are they allowed to leave school, join the army, get married etc at 16 but not allowed to vote? All of those are far more responsible adult decisions to make than voting in an election.

The voting age in Scotland was changed to 16 because young people were getting more involved with politics around the time of the independence referendum. Teenagers have become even more interested in UK politics since.
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No, only tax payers should be able to vote, regardless of age.
That's ridiculous
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Labour lost so badly because of Corbyn's unpopularity, nothing to do with age or Scotland.

Next time will be a lot closer I reckon, especially with Boris being in the job for 5 years at this point it'll be the much more interesting Election to watch imo.
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That is true, but why are they allowed to leave school, join the army, get married etc at 16 but not allowed to vote?
Under 18s can't:
Leave full time education
Engage in combative roles in the military
Get married without parental permission
Earn enough to pay taxes

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All of those are far more responsible adult decisions to make than voting in an election.
Which is why it's not easy for under 18s to do these things
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yes lets move toward a society where no one can hold a view that differs from our own as our view is right

(lets hope thats not a message to give to 16 year olds)

There's holding a different view, and there's being a nasty prick.

Sadly for Lee Anderson he falls into the latter.

And the fact that anyone would vote for him after saying that.
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So you would deliberately deny the under priveledged, the disabled, the unemployed and the sick a right to vote?
This never got answered
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Absolutely. I’ve wanted to vote since I was 15.
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Absolutely. I’ve wanted to vote since I was 15.
Every year the voting age should be altered to at least 4 years older than Cal's age that year.
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This never got answered
It won't do. He has no response.
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