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Old 13-12-2019, 11:29 PM #76
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When people say the NHS is being poorly run, they're not referring to the front line medical staff, who are literal incarnate angels. They're talking abo non-clinical staff above them who make decisions regarding tohow things are run.

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Hard to make decisions that won't in some way be conceived as poor when they are not given the funds to allow all facets of the NHS to run as they should and are instead having to pick and choose what the pittance of a pot they get is spent on.
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Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve
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Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve
......I agree, the heart and soul of the NHS is still there in many ways and clinging on because so many staff, don’t work ‘for a salary’...they work for a belief...like your mum, I’m one of the fortunate ones, Liam...in that my care was amazing...but I do know others whose experience has not been the same..or even nearly the same, sadly...at what is some of the most terrifying times in their lives and I know that many NHS staff feel so deflated about what’s happening around them as well...the NHS service has been such a pride, such an ideal that other countries have never achieved in the same way...it really has been the perfect example of the Great in Great Britain...we have something that has always been the best in the world for our parents, our grandparents etc...and it’s something that our children deserve to experience as well...but the image that Boris was shown of that child, paints an entirely different NHS under a Conservative rule...

...I’m not a Jeremy Corbyn fan, I will say that...I never have been...but him being the wrong person to lead the country, doesn’t make Boris any less wrong, is the thing...two wrongs do not make a leader that we deserve...
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The tories have spent more and added more debt, but the bit in bold gets to the crux of the matter. Enjoy your weekend.
...I recall reading some articles during the Windrush scandal...that some people were being denied healthcare ...I mean, all of a sudden it was...oh no, sorry...you’re not entitled, we need to investigate this or whatever...so, ‘immigrants are devouring our NHS resources..’...makes no sense at all...the world is full of ‘truths’, we’ll just all find the ones we gel with the most, I guess...
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...I’m not a Jeremy Corbyn fan, I will say that...I never have been...but him being the wrong person to lead the country, doesn’t make Boris any less wrong, is the thing...two wrongs do not make a leader that we deserve...
That's why I couldn't bring myself to vote in this election. To actively support any of the offerings is to lend my endorsement of them, and I'm not going to do that.

I think we are stuck in this rut for at least another 10 years now., but I look around the world and don't really see a better option. For many of them, the cracks are already showing, or they are frantically trying to paper over them. It's a pretty grim time
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I do feel a little sorry for Corbyn ,but imo,he should have put the country first and stood down ages ago as it was clear he wasn't well liked or he should have taken the complaints about the antisemitic accustations seriously and got his views on Brexit out in the open
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I do feel a little sorry for Corbyn ,but imo,he should have put the country first and stood down ages ago as it was clear he wasn't well liked or he should have taken the complaints about the antisemitic accustations seriously and got his views on Brexit out in the open
I think he started to believe his own hype tbh, he didn't realise how unpopular he was outside of the London bubble and social media. All he saw of the rest of the country was his rallies.
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And now the Tories know exactly how to slander any and all opposition for any upcoming election, their future is secure. All hail the Tories.
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And now the Tories know exactly how to slander any and all opposition for any upcoming election, their future is secure. All hail the Tories.
They've learned it from their trump master
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Because my mum has been in and out of hospital all year, she’s currently been in for nearly a month and they’ve done a great job with her, the nurses couldn’t be more helpful if they tried, their funds are appalling, but the heart and soul of the NHS is still there, they do what they can, with what they’ve got, I can only imagine what they’d be able to do if they received the funding they deserve
as has my mum and her care in a brand new hospital was ok - i have no idea what funds the nurses got aas i am sure you dont know either. what I do know is that there was a lot of crazy money wasted on drugs she did not need and trying to get information from staff was nigh in impossible. the hospital has a starbucks.
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Blaming the voters and calling them stupid is a bit babyish tbh...
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Its "the rich" that provide the jobs for others who do you work for?
Oh we should be so thankful to our kind corparate overlords who provide us with the scraps off of their table.
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Caroline Flint was Live on GMBHD itv
they played her interview of what she said
on Ridge SkyNewsHD yesterday,
Flint would not say it again.
She said yesterday "Emily Thornberry
told one of her colleagues
that Flint's voters are stupid"

She would not repeat it
fearing legal trouble.

A Link on this battle
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politi...oters-21101374

Flint says it was Corbyn and Brexit
that made so many Labour MP's
lose their seats



Also at 7:19AM on BBC1
Stephen Kinnock MP
said he is angry that any
Armed Forces in this Country
could not vote Labour because
of Corbyn?

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There was a female labour mp on Radio 5 blaming the bad weather and ten years of austerity ..



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There was a female labour mp on Radio 5 blaming the bad weather and ten years of austerity ..



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Austerity fair point.


But Bad Weather did not stop voters.
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Oh we should be so thankful to our kind corparate overlords who provide us with the scraps off of their table.
Then don't work for them

Or even better - start your own business! Create jobs for other people! Reap in that money!
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Awww..That's a shame...I was beginning to draw so much joy from the ohhh jer-emy corbyn chants...they need a leader that fits a football chant.
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Blaming the voters and calling them stupid is a bit babyish tbh...


Yes Emily is saying she never said
they were Stupid.



But Caroline Flint now Former Labour MP
says it was one her colleagues
was told by Emily
how Stupid Flint Voters are........
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But Bad Weather did not stop voters.


Shouldn’t the ten years of austerity worked for labour not against them ??


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Shouldn’t the ten years of austerity worked for labour not against them ??


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A 2nd Referendum
was the Problem for so many.
Yes 9 years of Cuts
should have been
Labour main point of a win.

But that Old Leader Corbyn
has a Terrible history
that many did not like
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Emily is now taking Legal Action against
Caroline Flint.

What a waste of money and time.

Clip just on BBCnewsHD


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