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14-12-2019, 03:17 PM | #2326 | ||
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After you. You go and tell them you voted SNP. Let's see how your green to red ratio among the Daily Hail readers is
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14-12-2019, 03:17 PM | #2327 | |||
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14-12-2019, 03:19 PM | #2328 | |||
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You know my methods
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14-12-2019, 03:22 PM | #2329 | ||
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If they voted Tory, they are a Tory. Anyone who had access to all the information at hand and still chose to vote Tory is deserving of everything they're going to get.
The only joy to come out of this will be to rub their faces in the pile of **** they've created. They got what they wanted after all, to them it'll smell like roses. They'll be overjoyed having to pay hundreds of pounds per month for medication they need, they'll be so happy that the Tories have gifted them with less public services, they'll be so happy if they face ruin if they just so happen to lose their jobs because of an increasingly predatory benefits system that will only force them into a spiral of debt. When (or if, considering what will likely happen to the NHS) they are too old to live independently, they can look forward to the joy of living their final days in a state run nursing home with minimal facilities or care. It'll be a pleasure for them, I'm sure. After all, they're gonna get what they wanted all along right? Such wonderful things are a small price to pay for a quick and disastrous brexit and the empty promise of less immigration. |
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14-12-2019, 03:22 PM | #2330 | |||
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Thinking the worst is going to happen all the time,no one knows yet,he might be a good PM.
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14-12-2019, 03:22 PM | #2331 | ||
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��️864,743 votes to elect 1 Green MP
��️642,303 votes to elect 0 Brexit Party MPs ��️334,122 votes to elect a Lib Dem ��️50,817 votes for a Labour MP ��️38,316 votes for a Plaid Cymru MP ��️38,300 votes for a Con. MP ��️25,882 votes for a SNP MP This is how broken the voting system is Last edited by Twosugars; 14-12-2019 at 03:23 PM. |
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14-12-2019, 03:24 PM | #2332 | ||
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14-12-2019, 03:25 PM | #2333 | ||
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Growing calls for electoral reform after vote share per party is revealed
Green MPs elected in yesterday’s general election represented more than 850,000 votes while SNP MPs represented under 26,000, according to figures from the Electoral Reform Society. More than 330,000 votes were needed to elect a Liberal Democrat, compared to 50,000 for Labour and 38,000 for Plaid Cymru and Conservative candidates. Meanwhile, the Brexit Party won more than 642,000 votes but failed to get any representatives in the House of Commons. Overall, the Electoral Reform Society claims that 45.3% of votes did not get any representation, because of the number of voters who didn’t support the winning candidate. Electoral Reform Society ✔ @electoralreform Across Britain, it took... ️864,743 votes to elect 1 Green MP ️642,303 votes to elect 0 Brexit Party MPs ️334,122 votes to elect a Lib Dem ️50,817 votes for a Labour MP ️38,316 votes for a Plaid Cymru MP ️38,300 votes for a Con. MP ️25,882 votes for a SNP MP#ScrapFPTP 14.5K 10:33 AM - Dec 13, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 9,078 people are talking about this The figures, which come from analysing the number of votes compared to the number of MPs elected, have led to renewed calls for electoral reform. Former Green party leader and Brighton Pavilion MP Caroline Lucas used her election victory speech to call for an end to the first past the post voting system, saying she felt “anger that our political system is so badly broken and is still letting down individuals and our country so badly”. “Our electoral system is rotten to the core,” she said. Last week, Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage pledged to change the party’s name to the Reform Party after the UK’s departure from the EU, in order to campaign for a proportional voting system. https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ults-exit-poll |
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14-12-2019, 03:26 PM | #2334 | ||
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Nothing will change, it doesn't benefit the Tory overlords to change the system. We are simply a one party nation now.
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14-12-2019, 03:27 PM | #2335 | ||
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For once I agree with Farage on this.
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14-12-2019, 03:28 PM | #2336 | |||
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Of course I watch the news and there have always been homeless people, we do try and help them,foodbanks were set up to help the needy and I got an appointment last week so I don't quite follow that one,the NHS gets vasts amounts of money but is mismanaged a lot and is overused ,I think you know what I mean,its not down to just one body that is responsible ,we ALL have to be.
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14-12-2019, 03:28 PM | #2337 | |||
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It’s hard to be optimistic when we’ve been through nearly a decade of austerity, with no change coming anytime soon. Your only rebuttal for when someone says the government should fund the impoverished, is that they shouldn’t take advantage of system and find a job? It’s really not that easy...
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14-12-2019, 03:30 PM | #2338 | ||
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But then he already knows this and just peddles demagougery and lies to Daily Heil readers who swallow them up eagerly Last edited by Twosugars; 14-12-2019 at 03:31 PM. |
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14-12-2019, 03:35 PM | #2339 | ||
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14-12-2019, 03:37 PM | #2340 | |||
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14-12-2019, 03:47 PM | #2341 | |||
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The electorate voted for the daily heil platform, so I'm excited to see how the Gypsy pogroms and stripping oversight away from parliament (both in their manifesto) works out in a nice healthy democracy.
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14-12-2019, 03:51 PM | #2342 | |||
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14-12-2019, 03:52 PM | #2343 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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In all honesty I think some of the language used by remainers has helped rather than hindered Brexit, some working class leavers got fed up of being told they were stupid, didn't know what they were voting for, were racist, and even if they were wobbling about leaving, their backs were up from some of the rhetoric and here we are
The Lib Dems did nada to help the remain cause, some remainers could not get behind,'just revoke' either, as well as having an unpopular leader
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14-12-2019, 03:53 PM | #2344 | |||
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The rise of the Red Tory
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14-12-2019, 03:57 PM | #2345 | ||
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The public cannot be helped, they are lemmings at this point and they deserve what they're gonna get and I don't want to hear a single complaint from anyone that voted Tory because they will get exactly what they voted for. There's no more excuses for them now, they can't pin anything on remainers or labour now that Boris' tories have a majority. They only have themselves to blame from here on out. |
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14-12-2019, 03:58 PM | #2346 | ||
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The only Tories are blue, anyone that voted for the Tories cannot call themselves Labour, especially with this election in which the NHS is on the line. Trying to desperately spin a narrative in which Labour voters voted for Tories won't work. Only Tories vote for Tories.
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14-12-2019, 03:58 PM | #2347 | |||
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POW! BLAM!
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MPs each represent a constituency - some are bigger than others, as smallish towns and their orbiting villages are different sizes (and demographics*) to big cities. Brighton is pretty big, probably bigger than a Tory town. The PM represents the party which achieves the most MPs, i.e. the party with the most constituency representatives. The way PR is being proposed isn't even fully defined, as far as I know. The seats in Parliament would be divided according to the percentage of votes, sure. But how would they be allocated? Can you guarantee that every constituency would get an MP from the party their majority voted for? Probably not. *I'm not even talking about ethnic demographics. I'm a small town bumpkin, I'm nothing like you weirdo city folks in That London Last edited by Oliver_W; 14-12-2019 at 03:59 PM. |
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14-12-2019, 03:59 PM | #2348 | |||
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I also think that many younger people are shocked that their social media lied to them and let them down. They had seen all the memes, the tweets, the soundbites and they were convinced that Labour would easily win, the lIb dems would do well as would the greens.
Its a victory for reality and a defeat for the mobile phone |
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14-12-2019, 04:00 PM | #2349 | |||
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Ideas of community, and the health of a society being measured by how we treat those with the least, are obsolete on this island.
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14-12-2019, 04:02 PM | #2350 | ||
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