[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The context of use is important too, though, and in my opinion unless those terms are being used tongue-in-cheek then yeah... I'd oppose all. As soon as any of these terms is used as an attack, or a social media battle horn, it becomes aggressive and sinister. In recent months, the term "Karen" has lost its original usage and is now primarily used aggressively as an insult, taunt or bait or as a lazy dehumanising tactic. Its not just "a few people" at this point. That's the primary function of these terms, and they don't belong anywhere near any rational or civilised debate. And yes, that applies to all of the examples you gave. Do you honestly take anyone seriously once they start throwing around terms like "snowflake", "bloody millenials" or "OK boomer", unironically?

In a WhatsApp message with your friends? Sure. That's different. And it's where these things should stay.

I don't class the boomer, milenial thing as the same... they are too generic. Like the examples I gave karens are very specific, I don't believe they can be 'anyone' in the same way I don't believe anyone could be a bimbo or a chav.

The term may have been hijacked, as we're all those terms by the media at the time to create controversy and sell papers.

However, regardless of that there WERE bimbos, chavs, yuppies...they were a product of their time, as is 'karen'.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I thought this at first... it's not unusual for there to be derogatory comments aimed at women on the internet, there will be those who lazily label all middle aged women 'karen' or all middle aged persons 'boomers'
Just like there are those who label all young persons 'millenials' or 'snowflakes'.

The defining feature here is context, I'm a middle aged woman and I think karens exist, I've met some. There have been lots of terms to define sections of society for many years. Chavs, hoodies, milfs, slone rangers, yuppies, bimbos, wags, goths. There's many more that share a common theme in their ideology, dress, age, class. It would be silly to suggest we can't add to that list expecially in the time of the internet as compiling evidence for a shared outlook and or view and dress is made glaringly apparent.

It's not wrong or offensive to admit there are subgroups within society.
And don't forget, if you oppose one you have to oppose all?
For balance and all that

Yeah I don’t use any of them ...slone ranger...what even is that ...never heard of it never mind used it

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yeah I don’t use any of them ...slone ranger...what even is that ...never heard of it never mind used it

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/so...rincess-diana/

[Niamh.]

Back on topic please

[arista]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes the USA Karen
in Central Park in NYC
in a Panic as a Black man is near her.


She was meant to have her dog on a lead.
Calling the Police
as he asked to keep her mutt on a lead.


All Dogs must be on a lead
in that zone


Racist thoughts in her head

The Lady has a hang up with black men.

[DouglasS]

Karen’s are making a second wave online - seen a lot of memes lately