[Kate!]

The legal smoking age in England could reportedly be raised from 18 to 21 after a “radical” review into plans to make the country smoke-free by 2030.

An independent review commissioned by the health secretary, Sajid Javid, and led by Javed Khan, the former chief executive of the children’s charity Barnardo’s, is also expected to support new taxes on tobacco company profits, according to*the Telegraph.

Thoughts?

[Swan]

Yes i agree with the legal age of smoking should be raised to 21. I think the same about alcohol too.

[bitontheslide]

i think smoking will fade out all on its own with the current measures. I can't remember the last time i was in the company of a smoker

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think smoking will fade out all on its own with the current measures. I can't remember the last time i was in the company of a smoker

That's because they're all vaping, which is potentially no better.

[Liam-]

Good, that’ll do until it’s rightfully banned all together

[GoldHeart]

Remember when it use to be 16... madness . And as mentioned ,I think more people seem to vape now.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Remember when it use to be 16... madness . And as mentioned ,I think more people seem to vape now.

They served me in most shops when i was 13 for ciggies. Early 00's. I've cut right down now, but yeah, insanity.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Swan

They served me in most shops when i was 13 for ciggies. Early 00's. I've cut right down now, but yeah, insanity.

I've heard older generations talking about ..how they began smoking at 9 years old . Think of their poor little lungs .

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

That's because they're all vaping, which is potentially no better.

4 chemicals, if you want to call vegetable glycol and propolyn glycol chemicals opposed to 4,000 chemicals

[Alf]

Everyone is addicted to coffee and tattoo's these days. I'll stick to the ciggies. I'm old skool

[ThomasC]

You do realise that the government got 10.27 billion last year in tax from smokers?

It funds more than costs to treat from illness arising from smoking. It's a gigantic cash cow.

I think it's bull****, just more cancel culture and PC. We've gone from not allowing smoking in pubs, to not having pictures on packets, to cigs not allowed to be displayed, to banning menthol.

I'm an adult so feck right off!! People will do what they want at the end of the day, as much as you try to discourage kids from starting.

It's same with sugar tax, why should I have to suffer because some can't stop filling their holes? Same with drinking!

Not my problem some can't moderate their intake.

Madness.

What next?

[Alf]

You could build a new hospital a year on the tax from smoking.

Smoking is patriotic. I'm doing my duty for my country. You can thank me if you like?

[ThomasC]

I love my vape, but I'm partial to a cigarette and if I'm drinking then I smoke otherwise I vape. I was 30-40 a day in Vegas on the slots.

I'm like a dragon.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Alf

You could build a new hospital a year on the tax from smoking.

Smoking is patriotic. I'm doing my duty for my country. You can thank me if you like?

Not after your unsavoury comment on my occupation thread

Little toerag

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think smoking will fade out all on its own with the current measures. I can't remember the last time i was in the company of a smoker

I agree with this, it's rare to be out with a smoker these days and definitely much less younger people smoke these days too (although I agree with TS that a lot are vapping instead and we don't know the long term implications of that yet) also it's crazy expensive to smoke here now too €15 for a pack.

PS. I'm off them 5 months now just went cold turkey this time and didn't tell anyone. It hasn't been too bad actually

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree with this, it's rare to be out with a smoker these days and definitely much less younger people smoke these days too (although I agree with TS that a lot are vapping instead and we don't know the long term implications of that yet) also it's crazy expensive to smoke here now too €15 for a pack.

PS. I'm off them 5 months now just went cold turkey this time and didn't tell anyone. It hasn't been to bad actually

Well done Niamh x

[ThomasC]

It really irritates me when the vaping Goonies come out.

I just find the whole comparison so illogical....

It might not be really healthy, but comparing it to smoking is like comparing a gorilla and an ant.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Well done Niamh x

Thanks, need to cut out the **** food now as well that I was using to comfort myself

[Alf]

Smokers are discriminated against. We're a minority. We're forced to go outside in the rain and snow at the pub and at work. They don't let us smoke on the bus or in stadiums. It's evil.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

It really irritates me when the vaping Goonies come out.

I just find the whole comparison so illogical....

It might not be really healthy, but comparing it to smoking is like comparing a gorilla and an ant.

No need to be so rude Thomas. Vaping is something new and the long term effects aren't known yet, that's just reality.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree with this, it's rare to be out with a smoker these days and definitely much less younger people smoke these days too (although I agree with TS that a lot are vapping instead and we don't know the long term implications of that yet) also it's crazy expensive to smoke here now too €15 for a pack.

PS. I'm off them 5 months now just went cold turkey this time and didn't tell anyone. It hasn't been too bad actually

Well done, I sort of quit like years a go and mostly just vape now but will occasionally have a cigarette if around friends that smoke otherwise just vape

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Well done, I sort of quit like years a go and mostly just vape now but will occasionally have a cigarette if around friends that smoke otherwise just vape

I would love to just have an occasional cigarette but I just can't do that, I'm too all or nothing when it comes to smoking

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No need to be so rude Thomas. Vaping is something new and the long term effects aren't known yet, that's just reality.

You're very sensitive lately


So serious.

It's not that new.

It's the tar that causes the most harm on cigarettes.

Whilst maybe not being healthy and potentially could cause damage, people compare them on the scale of smoking which is ridiculous imo.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

You're very sensitive lately





So serious.



It's not that new.



It's the tar that causes the most harm on cigarettes.



Whilst maybe not being healthy and potentially could cause damage, people compare them on the scale of smoking which is ridiculous imo.

I don't care what adults do and if it gets you off or gets smoking down fair enough but it is the "trendy new version" of smoking to teenagers who have never smoked

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I would love to just have an occasional cigarette but I just can't do that, I'm too all or nothing when it comes to smoking

I'm like that with food, can't be in the house or I'll eat it, bad food that is. I'm focused at the minute so doing well

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I don't care what adults do and if it gets you off or gets smoking down fair enough but it is the "trendy new version" of smoking to teenagers who have never smoked

I think raising the smoking age will not do much.

Even those under 18 find ways to smoke, fake ID, others buying them.

It's also at the detriment, not the increase in age, but other changes that impacts on adults.

Education and ID checks, parental guidance can help to a degree. Peer pressure will always be a thing.

Same with sugar tax and drink.

Tricky one really. It may reduce, but not eradicate the problem of under age smokers.....