[Redway]

Is ‘working-class and proud’ rightfully exemplified through-and-through in your overall conduct (from the clothes you wear to way you walk) or do you give off a more flush air (but for potentially different reasons)?

And with that Redway the question-surveyer begins 2023.

[Redway]

If you hold onto a £1.50 Waitrose bag from one of the few times in the year where one can actually afford to shop there (if you’re like me) it can give off certain vibes but when it’s like that it’s not supposed to mean anything other than “OK. This lady/guy likes to use carrier-bags for convenience and Waitrose ones are obviously a bit classier than Tesco bags for life. Fair enough. Okay. They must be vaguely put-together in some aspects.” But that’s really it. Morrisons, Asda, big Tesco and just-about anywhere else are far better for me for shopping experience, which is another reason I only go to Waitrose occasionally.

[smudgie]

Strewth.
Me and hubby are a bit like the Wayne and Waynetta of our street..we dress to please ourselves and couldn’t give a fig what people think.
Suppose we dress down a bit.

[Redway]

Dressing down can stop you coming across as too pretentious and arrogant and dressing up (or bagging up if it’s all you can/want to do) can stop nosy judgers from regarding you as worth less than the muck on their shoes. I guess if you just want to blend in and be normal to the average eye it’s just about finding a balance.

[Livia]

I'm not sure I get this, Red. Are you saying you can tell a working class person or a middle class person purely on the way they dress?

[Niamh.]

I wear jeans mostly? I like being comfortable, I have no idea if that is an answer to what you asked (sorry )

[Swan]

One bloke i used to work for had a few million in the bank, and in stocks and shares. His house, barns, and land on his property was worth around £5m, and that was more than 8 years ago. He was very well to do, talked proper, yet he his daily get up was some old trousers so old they had faded at the knees, his shoes cost about a tenner, his shirt was so faded it was thinner than a rizla paper, his coat had tears and patches all over it, and sometimes you'd catch him using baler twine as a belt for his regular trips to Sainsburry's.

Lets just say, if you didn't know him you'd think he was just a very poor, little old man trying to get a few pence together to eat.

[thesheriff443]

It depends if your a self made man/woman
A lottery winner
Fake millionaires
Drug dealers
I know millionaires that dress like they are homeless or people that wear all the gear but it’s all on the knock

[thesheriff443]

The question should be, does having money make you a better person

[Redway]

I guess a better way of phrasing that question would be, ‘does your daily mode of dressing (and whatnot) give off the most-accurate vibes to the outer world about your general economic/financial position; are you really as rich/poor/average as you dress/seem?’

Being seen as more well-to-do than is actually the case definitely isn’t a bad thing if you’re the sort of person who goes for an affected uppity air but there’s a lot of genuine humility and down-to-Earthness that might be missed by the average eye based on assumptions of how arrogant people closer to the middle class can be. Some of them might look like pompous people with money but they’re not necessarily any better-off than any struggling normal person. They might just care to give certain elements of their appearance a touch of class and nothing more. When that’s the case find out how down-to-Earth and relatable they often are once you get to know them a bit better.

On the contrary (like we’ve kind of discussed) a lot of actual millionaires down-dress (deliberately or because they just don’t care for fashion-fads and stuff) and obviously run the risk of being completely misunderstood in that sense by people who don’t know them at all and assume that they can’t be earning more than minimum wage, part-time because of how they look when they’re not trying to dress according to the size of their bank-balance.

[Oliver_W]

I love the baroque Versace aesthetic, so I wear a lot of lookalikes and knockoffs I'm not trying to "look rich" or anything, I just happen to like the way they look.

[Redway]

I’ll admit there’s a lot of nuance missing in the way I described and separated lower vs. middle/upper-class people but for the sake of simplicity I just wrote them in the most general terms. “Middle-class” is a term a lot of people use without really understanding what it means and how their pharmacist-parents probably aren’t actually middle-class.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Holiver_and_Ivy

I love the baroque Versace aesthetic, so I wear a lot of lookalikes and knockoffs I'm not trying to "look rich" or anything, I just happen to like the way they look.

Upper-class aesthetic eye, tight budget?

I know the feeling.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Originally Posted by Redway

If you hold onto a £1.50 Waitrose bag from one of the few times in the year where one can actually afford to shop there (if you’re like me) it can give off certain vibes but when it’s like that it’s not supposed to mean anything other than “OK. This lady/guy likes to use carrier-bags for convenience and Waitrose ones are obviously a bit classier than Tesco bags for life. Fair enough. Okay. They must be vaguely put-together in some aspects.” But that’s really it. Morrisons, Asda, big Tesco and just-about anywhere else are far better for me for shopping experience, which is another reason I only go to Waitrose occasionally.