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I have nothing personal against Horse Racing as a concept, but I really don't like how big the fences can be at the Grand National.
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I have nothing personal against Horse Racing as a concept, but I really don't like how big the fences can be at the Grand National.
Nearly every year they try to tell us they've made the course safer.

Yet still deaths continue.
Because they haven't and it's just lip service deceit.

I agree the fences always have been and remain still, way too high plus there's way too many of them too in my view.

Then people who know this and set out to highlight same, end up getting arrested.
Shameful.
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Race should have been cancelled.


50 quid it cost me to kill one horse.
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Alf, LT and me are the true animal lovers here I think
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Alf, LT and me are the true animal lovers here I think
Hull, brummie and red nose day fans favourite rangers.yes, you 3 love you're animals. True.
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https://news.sky.com/story/grand-nat...ourse-12857807

3 Horses Died
Official Count.

A sad loss/
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Tbh, if horses were set free, there would be more daily deaths Involving horses and garden fences than racing fences ever have done.
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The only disgrace is 3 horses dying,typical press blaming those who try to stop animals dying
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Nearly every year they try to tell us they've made the course safer.

Yet still deaths continue.
Because they haven't and it's just lip service deceit.

I agree the fences always have been and remain still, way too high plus there's way too many of them too in my view.

Then people who know this and set out to highlight same, end up getting arrested.
Shameful.
I agree with you Joey.

I personally feel like the main appeal of the Grand National should be seeing some of the best Horses taking each other on, not how big the fences are.
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I’ll never get how anyone could enjoy this death race. Imagine watching something where you know those majestic, beautiful animals are going to be whipped and some killed in front of your eyes for entertainment and a little flutter. How far have we come from Medieval Times, eh?
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I agree with you Joey.

I personally feel like the main appeal of the Grand National should be seeing some of the best Horses taking each other on, not how big the fences are.
The best horses would jump the big fences
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I’ll never get how anyone could enjoy this death race. Imagine watching something where you know those majestic, beautiful animals are going to be whipped and some killed in front of your eyes for entertainment and a little flutter. How far have we come from Medieval Times, eh?
Actually this for me.

I adore animals and respect all life.
To breed to risk killing for sport is something I abhor.

Plus the notion they are well looked after is pie in the sky as to some owners.
If they don't deliver on the racecourse, plus once they are more aged and not suitable to race anymore.
Their next fate can be anything from being discarded or sent to slaughter.

I love animals.
The real people wrong yesterday were those glorifying in a race that sees deaths every year now.

Horses are intelligent and beautiful beings.
This race now really is a grand national DISGRACE, it shouldn't be a legitimate race.
That's my view from MY deep love of all animals.
I wouldn't ever risk putting any animal into an event where it COULD more likely be killed.
So I'll take no lectures from those who would and even seem to enjoy seeing it done too.
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I noticed this year, after the race
Horses got more buckets of water over them.
As they are so Hot after that race
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Actually this for me.

I adore animals and respect all life.
To breed to risk killing for sport is something I abhor.

Plus the notion they are well looked after is pie in the sky as to some owners.
If they don't deliver on the racecourse, plus once they are more aged and not suitable to race anymore.
Their next fate can be anything from being discarded or sent to slaughter.

I love animals.
The real people wrong yesterday were those glorifying in a race that sees deaths every year now.

Horses are intelligent and beautiful beings.
This race now really is a grand national DISGRACE, it shouldn't be a legitimate race.
That's my view from MY deep love of all animals.
I wouldn't ever risk putting any animal into an event where it COULD more likely be killed.
So I'll take no lectures from those who would and even seem to enjoy seeing it done too.
100% agree Joey.
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I noticed this year, after the race
Horses got more buckets of water over them.
As they are so Hot after that race
Yes a good welfare move
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Actually this for me.

I adore animals and respect all life.
To breed to risk killing for sport is something I abhor.

Plus the notion they are well looked after is pie in the sky as to some owners.
If they don't deliver on the racecourse, plus once they are more aged and not suitable to race anymore.
Their next fate can be anything from being discarded or sent to slaughter.

I love animals.
The real people wrong yesterday were those glorifying in a race that sees deaths every year now.

Horses are intelligent and beautiful beings.
This race now really is a grand national DISGRACE, it shouldn't be a legitimate race.
That's my view from MY deep love of all animals.
I wouldn't ever risk putting any animal into an event where it COULD more likely be killed.
So I'll take no lectures from those who would and even seem to enjoy seeing it done too.

Well said Joey..
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I noticed this year, after the race
Horses got more buckets of water over them.
As they are so Hot after that race
While televised yes, well and truly to the leading ones.

Would be interesting to see what was afforded to the ones who didn't do so well or live up to owners expectations in the race.

Some ended up with injuries, another had to be killed.
Cool water not any consolation to any of them.

However selectively look at the lip service kind of caring while in the public eye if you must..
While completely avoiding the REAL horrors of this event to the others.
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Actually this for me.

I adore animals and respect all life.
To breed to risk killing for sport is something I abhor.

Plus the notion they are well looked after is pie in the sky as to some owners.
If they don't deliver on the racecourse, plus once they are more aged and not suitable to race anymore.
Their next fate can be anything from being discarded or sent to slaughter.

I love animals.
The real people wrong yesterday were those glorifying in a race that sees deaths every year now.

Horses are intelligent and beautiful beings.
This race now really is a grand national DISGRACE, it shouldn't be a legitimate race.
That's my view from MY deep love of all animals.
I wouldn't ever risk putting any animal into an event where it COULD more likely be killed.
So I'll take no lectures from those who would and even seem to enjoy seeing it done too.
it should be renamed the death race as that is what it is and bloody well said Joey,my sentiments exactly,you cant say you are an animal lover if you are prepared to turn a blind eye at this 3 horses died yesterday,needlessly,its fooking abhorent. Money over animal welfare for most.
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The best horses would jump the big fences
The best horses would walk away given the chance Parmy.
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The best horses would jump the big fences
Fair enough on that.

But the best Horses can still be celebrated while being safer than it currently is.

I get that the odd incident will happen sadly, but 22 Horses failing to complete the race is more than an incident, especially with 3 of the Horses dead.
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You got to laugh or you'de cry, news saying the horse racing committee Is looking into
Saturdays debarcle saying their thoughts are with all the trainers jockeys and owners of the horses !!!!!!! NOTHING about the loss of the horses, oh well I'm sure they can soon be replaced to make them money, bloody low lifes.
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