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Default Ben Johnson vs Usain Bolt

The two greatest of all time.

Obviously, Usain will go down as the GOAT but Ben was phenomenal for his time. His legend is ruined by politics. Yes he used performance enhancing drugs but so did 6 of the 8 runners in that final. He was singled out because Carl Lewis was who the money was behind.

I have no doubt that Usain also used performance enhancing drugs too, most of them do. But he was too valuable to money makers. It's disgusting what they did to Ben.



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The two greatest of all time.

Obviously, Usain will go down as the GOAT but Ben was phenomenal for his time. His legend is ruined by politics. Yes he used performance enhancing drugs but so did 6 of the 8 runners in that final. He was singled out because Carl Lewis was who the money was behind.

I have no doubt that Usain also used performance enhancing drugs too, most of them do. But he was too valuable to money makers. It's disgusting what they did to Ben.



Performance enhancing drugs ?

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Both good sprinters.

But tvs about enjoyment...so alan wells will always be my favourite sprinter.
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I hate Brn Johnson with an absolute vengeance!!

The Olympics were never the same for me after him


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Both good sprinters.

But tvs about enjoyment...so alan wells will always be my favourite sprinter.
I was only 2 when Wells won Olympic Gold. So he was before my time. I did see him race, but he was past his best then and Linford had taken over as Britain's number 1.
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He was the good guy. Carl Lewis was the baddie. It turned out later that Lewis had also been taking drugs. But Lewis was the Golden boy, so they made Ben the scapegoat. Lewis and the money behind him couldn't take that Ben was dominating him.

They should give him his two Gold medals back.
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It's the most famous 100m race in history. I remember the hype for this race at the time was bigger than any 100m race in history.

Carl Lewis was eventually awarded the Gold medal and the record books still give him it. But he was drugged too. And watch this video at 7:11, Lewis steps out of his lane. So he should have been disqualified for that and Linford Chrisie should be the winner more than Lewis. Linford was also drugged..


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I was only 2 when Wells won Olympic Gold. So he was before my time. I did see him race, but he was past his best then and Linford had taken over as Britain's number 1.

Christie was also another drug cheat


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It's the most famous 100m race in history. I remember the hype for this race at the time was bigger than any 100m race in history.

Carl Lewis was eventually awarded the Gold medal and the record books still give him it. But he was drugged too. And watch this video at 7:11, Lewis steps out of his lane. So he should have been disqualified for that and Linford Chrisie should be the winner more than Lewis. Linford was also drugged..



I always thought Carl Lewis was clean ?!?!


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No and neither was Usain Bolt. Pretty much all the fastest people and champions used performance enhancing drugs.

These Jamaican sprinters of the last decade in both mens and womens came from nowhere to dominate and where knocking times of their personal bests that didn't add up.

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I was only 2 when Wells won Olympic Gold. So he was before my time. I did see him race, but he was past his best then and Linford had taken over as Britain's number 1.
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I think Ben Johnson would be so far in front of Usain Bolt at half way that it would just put Bolt under pressure and he wouldn't be able to catch him. Ben Johnson was the greatest starter and he could maintain his speed over 100 metres.

Usain may go down as the GOAT and I wouldn't argue with that. But both at their best, Johnson wins. The guy ran 9.79 in 1988

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I think Ben Johnson would be so far in front of Usain Bolt at half way that it would just put Bolt under pressure and he wouldn't be able to catch him. Ben Johnson was the greatest starter and he could maintain his speed ove 100 metres.

Usain may go down as the GOAT and I wouldn't argue with that. But both at their best, Johnson wins.
Usain bolt in the shoes of oscar Pistorius however!
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