[bitontheslide]

it was a carbon fibre capsule which requires constant monitoring of its integrity

It was basically a micky mouse outfit that was not subject to any meaningful regulation. If they had been regulated, they would never have been allowed to operate

[Nicky91]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon...orced_polymers

yeah Bots, but carbon fibre is basically used for a lot of things, not just this capsule but also planes


what investigators now need to look for, is how much stress was on this capsule with every single dive leading up to this fatal one


+ was there something done differently this time around, and we know they use video game controllers to operate that capsule, was the one operating this on this fatal journey qualified enough


like with planes, they also need serious maintenance work after and before every flight, and yes some maintenance crew do cut some corners out of budget concerns etc, same with Alaska Airlines one who plunged into the ocean near california, after the tail came off and damaged the aircraft massively, also with metal fatigue as main cause

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Pretty much. Drawing comparisons is pretty pointless really.

I know which one I think deserved more news coverage...

[Soldier Boy]

Planes and submarines aren't really comparable, planes are pressurised inside and yes it's a disaster for passengers if it depressurise (because they need oxygen...) but the external pressure is less than internal and the difference isn't actually huge.

The water pressure forces when submerged deep are huge. Unimaginable really. Thousands of PSI. Such huge pressure that when the air gets compressed (in a split second) it also heats up to unimaginable temperatures.

Id say again that it's somewhat a blessing that this is what happened rather than them being trapped to suffocate in the dark. Truly the stuff of horror movies there. This? They would have been dead before they even knew there was a problem. Literally one of the quickest deaths possible.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it was a carbon fibre capsule which requires constant monitoring of its integrity

It was basically a micky mouse outfit that was not subject to any meaningful regulation. If they had been regulated, they would never have been allowed to operate

Sadly True.

[arista]

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[arista]

Reports the 19 year did not want to go,
he was scared

[bitontheslide]

the simple reality is that once they got the proper robot vehicle in place, it took it less than an hour to identify what had happened. The last few days have been a load of inaccurate speculation

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

the simple reality is that once they got the proper robot vehicle in place, it took it less than an hour to identify what had happened. The last few days have been a load of inaccurate speculation

But how long did it take to get the robot sub in place ?

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

But how long did it take to get the robot sub in place ?

Until yesterday

[thesheriff443]

The biggest lesson that should be learned from this is,
Don’t pressure your kids into doing something they don’t want to do.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Until yesterday

Well it’s only natural that there would be a mixture of hope /fears / and speculation

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The biggest lesson that should be learned from this is,
Don’t pressure your kids into doing something they don’t want to do.

it's all about acceptable risk really, but obviously if you suggest it to your child and they look at you like you are mad and then appear very reluctant, you drop it.

The risk level on that trip was enormous. When it has a waver on death, you have to say ... is this something i really want to subject my son to. 99.9999% of parents wouldn't subject their child to that level of risk

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it's all about acceptable risk really, but obviously if you suggest it to your child and they look at you like you are mad and then appear very reluctant, you drop it.

The risk level on that trip was enormous. When it has a waver on death, you have to say ... is this something i really want to subject my son to. 99.9999% of parents wouldn't subject their child to that level of risk

But there is always one and in this case it cost a young man his life.

[Livia]

How long did it take to find the Titanic? 70 years? 80? I never thought they'd find them and haven't we heard enough now?

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

The biggest lesson that should be learned from this is,
Don’t pressure your kids into doing something they don’t want to do.

I agree. Overall I'd say for those who chose to do it ... no it's not something I'd have chosen to do, but many adults have dangerous hobbies (and have died doing them) - caving, base jumping, various other extreme sports - and it's up to the individual if they want to take the risk ...

I don't really see this being all that different to the numerous people who have died trying to climb Everest. Just down instead of up.

But if the above is true about the young lad not wanting to do it and being pressured (excuse the pun) into doing it by his dad then that is truly tragic. You can imagine the rhetoric really. Telling him to man up, stop being a coward, etc. when he was like "We might die". And then they died . I hope there's an afterlife so that he gets to say "I ****ing told you so dad!"

[Livia]

The difference between climbing Everest and travelling to the bottom of the ocean is, thousands of people climb Everest every year. A better comparison would be Jeff Bezos and his incredible flying penis-rocket. Only the very rich can experience it and sometimes they die. Then we have days and days of mourning and lamenting while ordinary people dying hardly makes the news.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Livia

The difference between climbing Everest and travelling to the bottom of the ocean is, thousands of people climb Everest every year. A better comparison would be Jeff Bezos and his incredible flying penis-rocket. Only the very rich can experience it and sometimes they die. Then we have days and days of mourning and lamenting while ordinary people dying hardly makes the news.

I was thinking more the early days of Everest mountaineering-tourism, when it was only the rich doing it and there were regularly incidents and deaths (and lots of deaths prior to anyone making it to the summit at all). These days there's better equipment and they've perfected the process so there are queues up the mountainside during "summit season" .

But very true about space. There will definitely be similar incidents with "space tourism for millionaires".

The above about Everest though, does make me wonder if in 50+ years time there will be regular expeditions to the Titanic and it won't be considered all that risky at all . And maybe some sort of ... space hotel ... or space-Disneyland.

[Livia]

The Titanic will only be there a few more years before is gone forever, 30 years they reckon, before it disintigrates. Plus, it's a grave... Charging rich people to gawp at it doesn't sit well with me.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The above about Everest though, does make me wonder if in 50+ years time there will be regular expeditions to the Titanic and it won't be considered all that risky at all . And maybe some sort of ... space hotel ... or space-Disneyland.

I didn’t even know you could go to the titanic as a tourist.
Now everyone knows
And in the future is will definitely be a bucket list thing when the equipment and experience is much better
Funny how such a terrible thing will actually be great publicity in the future

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

The Titanic will only be there a few more years before is gone forever, 30 years they reckon, before it disintigrates. Plus, it's a grave... Charging rich people to gawp at it doesn't sit well with me.

I agree. It's a masa grave and should be left alone.
Let the poor souls rest.