[Z]

It's getting to be like that Black Mirror episode Men Against Fire, how are they even defining what Hamas is and how will anyone know when they've been 'eradicated'? It seems frighteningly inevitable that a mass outbreak of any number of diseases is going to begin any day now in these cramped conditions they've created for civilians being displaced multiple times, no food, bad weather, lots of dead bodies, no functioning hospitals...

[arista]

Great to have you Back

Z .

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Z

It's getting to be like that Black Mirror episode Men Against Fire, how are they even defining what Hamas is and how will anyone know when they've been 'eradicated'? It seems frighteningly inevitable that a mass outbreak of any number of diseases is going to begin any day now in these cramped conditions they've created for civilians being displaced multiple times, no food, bad weather, lots of dead bodies, no functioning hospitals...

One very strong thought provoking post is this.

[Ninastar]

Z

[Liam-]

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

Youtube video

many hamas terrorists captured

Originally Posted by Liam-

Are these different viewpoints of the same thing?

[Soldier Boy]

The silence is indeed deafening: there'd be outrage if this was images of Hamas with prisoners.

[Liam-]

I can’t decide which is worse, the propaganda itself or the fact that the propaganda is so bad because they expect people to either a) be stupid enough to fall for it or b) not care that it’s obviously propaganda and spread it anyway because they want more children to be slaughtered

[arista]

Originally Posted by Liam-

I can’t decide which is worse, the propaganda itself or the fact that the propaganda is so bad because they expect people to either a) be stupid enough to fall for it or b) not care that it’s obviously propaganda and spread it anyway because they want more children to be slaughtered

If only Hamas
would give themselves up?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by arista

If only Hamas
would give themselves up?

They obviously think Israel('s leadership) should do similar none of them are going to just roll over.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

shocking and unacceptable but as for the silence are the people who denied 7 October even happened asking this question...irony

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

shocking and unacceptable but

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

not surprising from someone who said the hostages looked fine, a few clean clothes all is forgiven

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

not surprising from someone who said the hostages looked fine, a few clean clothes all is forgiven

Quote me, liar.

[arista]

I am Glad the young lad crying
is Alive

[joeysteele]

I fear the UK and USA are going to be in a spot here if they keep unconditionally supporting Netanyahu.
He seems set on a path of danger too for the area, as well as Hamas are too.

Meanwhile way too much slaughtering of innocents seems to be just being allowed to go on.

No Nation should be given support for that.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Quote me, liar.

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The hostages all look remarkably clean and healthy considering ......

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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I fear the UK and USA are going to be in a spot here if they keep unconditionally supporting Netanyahu.
He seems set on a path of danger too for the area, as well as Hamas are too.

Meanwhile way too much slaughtering of innocents seems to be just being allowed to go on.

No Nation should be given support for that.

Israel are going too far, Hamas continue to shell Israel, there are no winners, the Palestinians people are living in terrible conditions, and Jewish people all over the world are living in fear

[bitontheslide]

When has war ever been nice. When has war ever been fair? People are trying to apply standards to something that doesn't have standards. People dying in wars is the only certainty

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

not surprising from someone who said the hostages looked fine, a few clean clothes all is forgiven

To be fair he also called out the use of "It's a shame about what happened on 7 Oct, buut -"

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

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So you actually looked up the post that you're using to justify an accusation of "they were given clean clothes so all is forgiven" and actively chose to cherry pick the shorter pack of it to back up your disingenuous point? Sadly Cherie other people can also scroll back.

That whole post in actual context;

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

The hostages all look remarkably clean and healthy considering the "unimaginable" things that "must" have been being done to them by their captors ... some have repeatedly insisted.

It's a difficult thing to bring up of course - being kidnapped and held hostage in any regard is obviously an extremely traumatic event during which one would fear for their lives daily - I'm not downplaying what these people have experienced. Just pointing out that it doesn't QUITE appear to match up with the conditions that people have been insisting they will have been kept in, and the abuse people have been insisting they will have been subject to, by their "animal" captors.

I was referencing the insistence of certain members that the kidnapped children would have been raped, subjected to unimaginable torture, and probably murdered by their captors. Which turned out not to be the case. I was calling out the double standards and propaganda then, just as now.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

So you actually looked up the post that you're using to justify an accusation of "they were given clean clothes so all is forgiven" and actively chose to cherry pick the shorter pack of it to back up your disingenuous point? Sadly Cherie other people can also scroll back.

That whole post in actual context;



I was referencing the insistence of certain members that the kidnapped children would have been raped, subjected to unimaginable torture, and probably murdered by their captors. Which turned out not to be the case. I was calling out the double standards and propaganda then, just as now.

Lol I cherry picked on purpose just like you did mine, its not just you can cherry pick you know, and I could have predicted your response ....

my point was pretty valid before you cherry picked it, the people moaning about silence are the same ones who are silent when the boot is on the other foot ...if you didn't get that point I can't help it

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Lol I cherry picked on purpose just like you did mine, its not just you can cherry pick you know, and I could have predicted your response ....

my point was pretty valid before you cherry picked it, the people moaning about silence are the same ones who are silent when the boot is on the other foot ...if you didn't get that point I can't help it

My point was only that I don't believe for a split second that you actually believe that anything being done in Gaza or to Palestinian captives is shocking or unacceptable, it was an obligatory and insincere disclaimer before making a jibe about "people who don't think Oct 7 ever happened" - whoever those people supposedly are.

[Nicky91]

another cease fire lol, Israel is right, they don't have to stick to that cease fire, they have the rights to defend themselves


Netherlands once again abstained from voting

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

My point was only that I don't believe for a split second that you actually believe that anything being done in Gaza or to Palestinian captives is shocking or unacceptable, it was an obligatory and insincere disclaimer before making a jibe about "people who don't think Oct 7 ever happened" - whoever those people supposedly are.

Well you can think what you like I know what is in my heart and I really don't care what your opinion of me is, the fact is you are wrong..end of, I could levy the suggestion that you are an antisemite, is that true?

You are being disingenous as usual, you know full well there are people who don't believe 7th Oct ever happened and that Israel killed everyone despite evidence to the contrary and yes at least one posts in this thread, I will let you with your enormous brain figure out who that is