[bitontheslide]

America is corrupt to the core, they just branded it with the land of the free, land of opportunity etc etc. It's a cesspit

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

My assessment is that there are a lot of conspiracy theories that a more than likely complete bollox. The people behind the trafficking are not very bright, they never are. They are just rich and ruthless. All they needed to do was take out epstein and then the whole thing became hearsay and deniable

…I would have thought that Ghislaine Maxwell would have had to be ‘taken out’ as well to have ensured that it would just become hearsay and impossible to find evidence…it can’t surely have been that it was so simple as Epstein being that only person to be that threat …it’s sad really that so much time has lapsed with so many rumours and names etc …that it’s now all about the names and less about child/sexual abuse/exploitation….incant imagine though that there’s anyone ‘wow’ to still be revealed, though…

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I would have thought that Ghislaine Maxwell would have had to be ‘taken out’ as well to have ensured that it would just become hearsay and impossible to find evidence…it can’t surely have been that it was so simple as Epstein being that only person to be that threat …it’s sad really that so much time has lapsed with so many rumours and names etc …that it’s now all about the names and less about child/sexual abuse/exploitation….incant imagine though that there’s anyone ‘wow’ to still be revealed, though…

Epstein was either talking or had indicated that he was going to talk (make a deal). Maxwell has never so much as made a peep, and had plenty of time after Epstein's death to reassure people that she wouldn't, and possibly also to set up contingencies (info/evidence that would be released if anything happened to her in custody).

[Ninastar]

I agree that it’s not just Hollywood and that many many people knew. But there is nothing they could do as there’s so many of them plus so many contracts/law suits that no one wanted to chance it

And I don’t blame them

There will be plenty of non celeb millionaires on the list that can use fake names to get away with it too

This isn’t just a celeb thing, it’s a rich ppl thing

[Soldier Boy]

Nothing will happen now either. No one on that list will face any sort of investigation.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

I agree that it’s not just Hollywood and that many many people knew. But there is nothing they could do as there’s so many of them plus so many contracts/law suits that no one wanted to chance it

And I don’t blame them

There will be plenty of non celeb millionaires on the list that can use fake names to get away with it too

This isn’t just a celeb thing, it’s a rich ppl thing

…yeah, it’s a ‘rich and people of power and influence’ thing for sure…but obviously, celebrities are the ones who are known so those will be the most recognisable and therefore the most people of media interest, I would say…not all of the very wealthy businessmen will be names we’re familiar with…

…some other celebrity names that are apparently on ‘the list’ apparently are Eminem, Cate Blanchett, Bruce Willis, Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz…but I believe that many of the names are there in relation to court records and being somehow involved in some way in Epstein’s prosecution, which in itself would have involved many names…?……so being ‘on the list’ is definitely not an indictation of any Epstein island activities or guilt in anything…but maybe in some way, involved in the extensive court proceedings and his conviction….

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

He'll be making deals on other issues.

He's not untouchable. We need him alive to get rid of all the people on Epstein client list.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…yeah, it’s a ‘rich and people of power and influence’ thing for sure…but obviously, celebrities are the ones who are known so those will be the most recognisable and therefore the most people of media interest, I would say…not all of the very wealthy businessmen will be names we’re familiar with…

…some other celebrity names that are apparently on ‘the list’ apparently are Eminem, Cate Blanchett, Bruce Willis, Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz…but I believe that many of the names are there in relation to court records and being somehow involved in some way in Epstein’s prosecution, which in itself would have involved many names…?……so being ‘on the list’ is definitely not an indictation of any Epstein island activities or guilt in anything…but maybe in some way, involved in the extensive court proceedings and his conviction….

And exactly those names have suddenly been very anti Trump. Mmmm I wonder why
. They're terrified that he will expose them.

[Vanessa]

Rumours that Epstein and co were involved in the occult. This is much bigger than we realize.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

And exactly those names have suddenly been very anti Trump. Mmmm I wonder why
. They're terrified that he will expose them.

You've been listening to too much Alf. Don't blow Trump's piece of this puzzle out of proportion.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

You've been listening to too much Alf. Don't blow Trump's piece of this puzzle out of proportion.

If they want to stop these people they're going to need Trump. As he's the only one willing to talk.

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

If they want to stop these people they're going to need Trump. As he's the only one willing to talk.

1) they're not going to stop these people

2) Trump is an unreliable witness, unless he can direct them to verifiable evidence, what he has to say means nothing.

3) ...they're not going to stop these people.

[bitontheslide]

If Trump becomes president again, he would simply ask for money or whatever for his silence. Exactly the same as Putin did. That's the way the world works at that level

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Zizu

He is the epitome of corruption though


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Zero evidence of that. Intfact they've tried everything they have to to pin stuff on him, even making up complete lies. And they have nothing, he's come out smelling of roses.

You're just going by what his enimies have made up about him, which so far as all been untrue. So where is his criminality?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Alf

Zero evidence of that. Intfact they've tried everything they have to to pin stuff on him, even making up complete lies. And they nothing, he's come out smelling of roses.

You're just going by what his enimies have made up about him, which so far as all been untrue. So where is his criminality?

And he's still the only one cooperating against Epstein and co.
No wonder no one else is talking!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Hollywood isn't really the issue - it's the big-name politicians (both past and present) and powerful families.

Deal with both of them imo.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

You never, ever see Robert De Niro on news channels being interviewed about politics. But that not normal behaviour happened during Trump's time. And his message to you all was "Orange man bad"

Tbf orange man helped encourage January 6th, which is pretty damn bad.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf orange man helped encourage January 6th, which is pretty damn bad.

You will have to explain January 6th to people because brown looking man has trumped your Trump one with october 7th, for last years date only news headline.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf orange man helped encourage January 6th, which is pretty damn bad.

TBF he's on video that day saying "Go home in peace"

Also, that was an inside job imo.

It depends how deep you want to dig for yourself into it.

If you're happy to accept the mainstream (Trumps enimies) narrative, then sure. Trump will be your villain. If you want to look a bit deeper for yourself. You'll see that once again the mainstream and Trump's enimies are not being truthful about everything.

More than Ashley Babbitt died from that incident. She was the only one who died on January 6th though.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You will have to explain January 6th to people because brown looking man has trumped your Trump one with october 7th, for last years date only news headline.

Admittedly it is pretty hard to be worse than a Terrorist group that also like to rape women and use their own people as Human Shields.

[Alf]

Not only do they like to rape children, they love wars too.

Trump showed you that wars are not needed. Now that you see someone else in charge. They wars are back and constant.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

TBF he's on video that day saying "Go home in peace"

Also, that was an inside job imo.

It depends how deep you want to dig for yourself into it.

If you're happy to accept the mainstream (Trumps enimies) narrative, then sure. Trump will be your villain. If you want to look a bit deeper for yourself. You'll see that once again the mainstream and Trump's enimies are not being truthful about everything.

More than Ashley Babbitt died from that incident. She was the only one who died on January 6th though.

Look I agree with you that the media sometimes blow Trump out of proportion.

But he didn't really try to help during the Capitol Hill incident, and he did keep saying that the Election was rigged, knowing that he was riling his fanbase up even more, which was escalating the situation.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not only do they like to rape children, they love wars too.

Trump showed you that wars are not needed. Now that you see someone else in charge. They wars are back and constant.

Some warmongers probably want the original Star Wars trilogy to become reality.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Look I agree with you that the media sometimes blow Trump out of proportion.

But he didn't really try to help during the Capitol Hill incident, and he did keep saying that the Election was rigged, knowing that he was riling his fanbase up even more, which was escalating the situation.

What did you want him to do? He put a message out saying "Go home and go home in peace"

Did you want him to go down there and give them all a smacked backside? What was it you wanted him to do?

The election was quite obviously rigged, just look at all the evidence and try to make an argument of it not being rigged. I keep saying it. I've constantly said it for the past 3 and a bit years, because have a pair of eyes.

[Alf]

People not on Epstein's list

Donald Trump
Elon Musk
Alex Jones
Matt Gaetz
Andrew Tate