[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well done Mock for lifting the mood on this thread.

I personally agree with Ammi too in what she says.

Blinking in itself is not a sign of lying
It's other mannerisms and hand gestures and movements that more likely indicate people being economical with the truth.

I've a cousin that blinks incessantly when anyone is talking to her .
Always has done.

As for publishing anything, why should she .
Since it's private advice and finances.

If, I stress IF she is found by police or other standards committees to have done wrong
Then that's the time to publish such private documents.

As she says, when the Cons publish all their advice and tax issues freely, then so will she
I won't hold my breath waiting for Cons to do so nor their hard-line supporters expecting them to.

Thanks Joey.

What evidence are the Tories expecting to find on her that they didn't find the first time?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Such a classy broad … fake fur coat , leapard-skin leggings and dock martin boots

Not many can pull that look off ..




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You're not even attacking her for anything substantive- if you went after her for calling Tories "scum", you might have a point in that she acted in an "unparliamentary manner", and that's better than going on about her clothes.


And for the record, my only problem with her using that word was that she effectively handed a narrative over to the Tories and the gutter-press, and anything else from her speech was basically ignored.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

You're not even attacking her for anything substantive- if you went after her for calling Tories "scum", you might have a point in that she acted in an "unparliamentary manner", and that's better than going on about her clothes.


And for the record, my only problem with her using that word was that she effectively handed a narrative over to the Tories and the gutter-press, and anything else from her speech was basically ignored.

I honestly can’t find one redeeming feature about her … apart from being female of course


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Thanks Joey.

What evidence are the Tories expecting to find on her that they didn't find the first time?

I haven't a clue as it seems there's nothing new from what was known before.

The police decided then there was nothing to investigate as to her directly.
It may well be they reach the same conclusion.

It's a Con MP who reported it to the police, when they refused to investigate.
He made a complaint about their decision.
So they have to look over it again because they have to honour complaints.

The only thing this highlights to me is that across the board a lot of things need simplifying as to MPs affairs with the fullest transparency from the lot of them.

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I honestly can’t find one redeeming feature about her … apart from being female of course


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I don't like her, but her achievements in politics have to be admired

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I honestly can’t find one redeeming feature about her … apart from being female of course


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I can think of a few.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I haven't a clue as it seems there's nothing new from what was known before.

The police decided then there was nothing to investigate as to her directly.
It may well be they reach the same conclusion.

It's a Con MP who reported it to the police, when they refused to investigate.
He made a complaint about their decision.
So they have to look over it again because they have to honour complaints.

The only thing this highlights to me is that across the board a lot of things need simplifying as to MPs affairs with the fullest transparency from the lot of them.

It just appears to be quite petty from the Tory MP tbh.

How many Politicians around the world have been involved in dodgy crimes? Yet it feels like Angela Rayner is being harshly singled out imo.

And that's if she is even guilty of what she's being accused of.

[parmnion]

Eddie Izzard could pull that off.

[LeatherTrumpet]

chilling

[arista]

Yes my Love
do not worry
the general election is not for months ahead

[LeatherTrumpet]

[thesheriff443]

They all do it
Same as starmer and the 100 grand piece of land he didn’t declare

[arista]

The Daily Mail on Sunday
has proof
due to her tweets

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

The Daily Mail on Sunday
has proof
due to her tweets

What did she say in her tweets?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

What did she say in her tweets?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by arista

I'll be interested to know what the Mirror and the Guardian have got to say about this.

Because if they correlate with what the Daily Mail is saying, then it pretty much confirms it in my eyes.

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The Tory party chairman has accused
Keir Starmer of not doing enough to
probe claims about Angela Rayner's
property dealings]

[Cherie]

I have thought all along that it was absurd that she claimed she was living apart from her husband and children when they were not separated If she had just owned up and payed the tax it would be forgotten by now instead she has insisted on lying

[arista]

Police investigate Labour deputy leader
Angela Rayner over council house sale

4 minutes ago



She should pay the £1500 fine.



[Greater Manchester Police have
launched an investigation into Labour's deputy
leader Angela Rayner over the sale
of her council house.
She has been accused of breaking electoral
law by giving false information about
her main residence.

Ms Rayner denies this and Labour said it
remains "completely confident" she has complied
with all the rules.

The police investigation has been
prompted by a complaint
from Tory MP James Daly.

A police spokesperson said:
"We're investigating whether any offences
have been committed.
This follows a reassessment
of the information provided to us by Mr Daly."]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68797258

[arista]

She was registered to vote
from one house only.

This is the problem.

SkyNewsHD Live.

[joeysteele]

Good.

Now with this it may be sorted one way or the other.
The Police cannot be accused of any weakness now by really looking into it.

She maintains all was in order.
The investigation may well result in the police reaching that inclusion.
Or of they find wrongdoing it's right it is found to be wrong.

They maybe would have been wiser to investigate when the first complaint was made.
However, that's where it's at now so that is good.

Because if the police do now see nothing wrong after a full investigation.
Then the Mail and the Con MP will have to accept that.

Just as if the police do find she did anything wrong, then it's up to her to then face the consequences of that.

I don't know, we don't know, neither do the police until they've investigated.
I hope they can do this as quickly as possible, that shouldn't be too difficult to do.

No one, no matter their position or who they are should be above the law.
She has the full chance now with the police to show she did nothing wrong.
Or they can prove she did.

I'm pleased they are to investigate this otherwise it would have tumbled up to and during the election campaign to come.
If she's done wrong, she'll need to definitely make a decision on her future.
If the police find nothing wrong, it cannot then be raised against her in the election.

Personally I don't think the police had any choice after a new complaint being made, to them actually do an investigation.

[arista]

"Now with this it may be sorted one way or the other."


Yes Joey

Pay up or Not Pay up

[Oliver_W]

Why was she so determined to keep £1.5k?

I mean, capital gains tax basically is theft, and anyone who can legally avoid it absolutely should.

But it doesn't sounds like she used legal avoidance, and for someone prominent in politics, moreover who carps on about doing when the Tories try to keep more of their own money, she should know better.

[LeatherTrumpet]

your turn luv?

[arista]

Starmer thinks a Line,
will be drawn,

After the Police Investigation.