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[Maru]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i think this was iran's plan from the start, they want a regional conflict and there is such hatred in the region that it takes very little to light the fuse.

It's not even just the fact that there will likely be a regional war, the effect on the global economy will be absolutely massive, so countries that don't want to get involved will be dragged in across the globe. Honestly, i think it's inevitable or as close to inevitable as it could possibly be

Just to add, when America were attacked on home soil, they didn't hesitate to exact revenge, so Biden saying don't retaliate is laughable

Yep.

I'd expect it from my govt. I imagine the Israel people are much the same. Nobody wants war at the end of the day, but when is the line drawn? They are being attacked by both terrorists and now Iran, an actual country. Israel has a right to self-defense and they would be in the wrong to do nothing for their people.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Maru

Yep.

I'd expect it from my govt. I imagine the Israel people are much the same. Nobody wants war at the end of the day, but when is the line drawn? They are being attacked by both terrorists and now Iran, an actual country. Israel has a right to self-defense and they would be in the wrong to do nothing for their people.

Agreed!

[Liam-]

If they didn’t want Iran to retaliate they shouldn’t have bombed their embassy and killed their people, Israel are dropping bombs on multiple countries around them on a daily basis, they are not the victims no matter how hard they and the western media try to make them look like they are

[Soldier Boy]

"The victims" as always here isn't really something you can pin down (other than to say that any civilian life on any side caught in the crossfire is a victim) - the political situation in the Middle East has been a thunderdome for longer than living memory. It's very, very complex and has always been somewhat held together with duck tape and crazy glue.

But people be people and they like their heroes and villains, goodies and baddies... black and white... so to speak. Pointing out political complexity is seen as "fence sitting" - you have to pretend that everything is simple, neat and tied up with a pretty little ribbon, one way or the other, even though it doesn't and never will reflect the reality.

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You have to fight for peace

[bitontheslide]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

"The victims" as always here isn't really something you can pin down (other than to say that any civilian life on any side caught in the crossfire is a victim) - the political situation in the Middle East has been a thunderdome for longer than living memory. It's very, very complex and has always been somewhat held together with duck tape and crazy glue.

But people be people and they like their heroes and villains, goodies and baddies... black and white... so to speak. Pointing out political complexity is seen as "fence sitting" - you have to pretend that everything is simple, neat and tied up with a pretty little ribbon, one way or the other, even though it doesn't and never will reflect the reality.

sometimes there is inevitability. This has been brewing for decades. In all my years, it's never been more on the brink than it is now.

It's all very well as an outsider saying cool heads must prevail. That's just not how humans behave, and like i said earlier, the USA were spoiling for a fight when they were attacked - think pearl harbour and the twin towers. No cool heads were on display there

Oh and an observation in passing ..... have we ever had a more insincere PM than Sunak. It's obvious he doesn't give a crap about Israel. He is just parroting words

[Soldier Boy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

have we ever had a more insincere PM than Sunak. It's obvious he doesn't give a crap about Israel. He is just parroting words

IMO it's fairly obvious that he doesn't give a crap about anything but $$$ and the financial sector. Everything he does enthusiastically is in some way geared towards neoliberal economics, and as you say, everything else sounds like lip service that's been written by someone else and handed to him on a napkin.

[arista]

Israel has the right to
Fire Missiles at Iran.

Iran has crossed the red line.

They confirmed that in the United Nations.

[Ninastar]

Neither side is the victim and sadly that means a lot of innocents on both sides will end up dead because of what’s going on. I do not and have not ever supported bombing. I think it’s better for soldiers to be there in person so they can scope out the bad ones and help rescue and restore the innocents

[arista]

Prime Minister Sunak
is going Live in Parliament around 3:30PM

Speaking about the RAF,
who flew from Cyprus,
playing their part.

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PM SUNAK


Now Live all Media

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George Galloway MP
had words against Sunak,

He said why did the Prime Minister not mention
the Israel attack in Syria on the Iranian Generals.



The PM
said why did he not mention the Iran attack on Israel..............

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Bossy young Labour MP Zuma Sultana
demanded a yes or no answer from Sunak.

Sunak gave her a long reply.

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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

George Galloway MP
had words against Sunak,

He said why did the Prime Minister not mention
the Israel attack in Syria on the Iranian Generals.



The PM
said why did he not mention the Iran attack on Israel..............

One time I'd think about applauding Sunak.

[parmnion]

Originally Posted by Liam-

If they didn’t want Iran to retaliate they shouldn’t have bombed their embassy and killed their people, Israel are dropping bombs on multiple countries around them on a daily basis, they are not the victims no matter how hard they and the western media try to make them look like they are

Of course, the raping and slaughtering of those lucky enough not to be taken hostage by hamas terrorists means diddly squat to you in regards to the bigger picture.

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USA: Anti-Israel Protests have shut down the Golden Gate Bridge.


Even Fire Crews are there
as well as Police.


Ref: CNN HD USA Live

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Why aren't Police arresting them, this tweeter asks?

If you or I were to stop traffic in protest of our taxes being way to high. We both know that we'd be immediately removed. Right?

This is all organised crime.

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